Do you think people are inherently good or bad?

you're a cunt for sure

There is no universal definition of good and bad. And even if it was possible to get to a common definition, it would depend on the person.

Troll like you are assholes, therefore bad.

@Lensflare

> There is no universal definition of good and bad. And even if it was possible to get to a common definition, it would depend on the person.

Sounds like you're retarded or you do a lot shady things. Do you happen to work at scam call center?

@SidTheITGuy

There is nothing wrong with being a cunt.

Are babies good or bad?

how would a person by "inherently" good or bad? At what age does one become a "person" so you can judge them by this criteria?

Due to this, my answer has to be no. I think nature may play a part, there are plenty of personality disorders to choose from that can compel someone to do something "bad". But then can you really blame them if it's caused by a disorder?

But I more incline that people are skewed by nurture. Bad childhood, Bad friends, Bad colleagues or just Bad experiences with other people may make a villain. There's a notion of the "cycle of abuse" for example. So was such a person "inherently bad" when it was done to them? I don't think so. You are obviously responsible for your action, and how you deal with events that happen to you, as such someone that turns a villain my be blamed for weak psyche, but I don't think I can call them inherently bad, more like "bad right now, in this moment"

And then there's subjectivity like Lens mentioned

Humans are inherently cunts, good or bad - does not matter

Humans are given the choice to be both , its never inherent.

@Lensflare trolls aren't assholes. "troll" is a new name for what always existed. The jester, the clown who tell the kings he's not a fucking god. We actually fulfill a very important social function by shaking cultural expectations. Of course, they make bourgeois idiots have foam on their mouth

@iiii and dicks

@antigermanist bullshit. Internet trolls post provocative shit in forums and social platforms like this one with the sole purpose of starting a fight for entertainment.
Those trolls then act dumb adding fuel to the fire.
Read the fucking definition.

@Lensflare you are the definition of the bourgeois idiot with foam on your mouse at the idea that somebody might not subscribe to his static certitude.

I'm a believer, so beliving that people are born inherently sinful(and thus born inherently evil) is part of the faith.
But you know, as people grow up and learn and get affected by society and education and parents and many other factors, they change, so I believe people can be taught to be good (or teach/train themselves to be good), but everyone will still always have the capacity and potential to be evil.
I think you can't learn to be good unless you accept you have the capacity to be absolutely evil.
I also think that people who think they are good and think they don't have the capacity of evil in them are scary, and I think they are the easiest to manipulate into giving in to their inner evil.

@antigermanist NO, YOU!

I think kids can be pretty selfish until you train it out of them.

@Demolishun kids are the best

Did you know they did most of the killing for pol pot regime lmao. They're the best at murdering white wingerz

@Demolishun btw if you need a kid or two from the darknet just let me know. You can train them to do anything. So convenient

“What is better? To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?” ~ Paarthurnax

inherently prone to get more stupid

@Lensflare the more you mention trolls the more I realize you're the trolls you complain about

the lizards tell you kids are born sinful so that they can be brainwashed into the lizard ways

the lizards are actually literally evil incarnate though. a dead parasitism thing, giving you stupid self-sabotaging, and hurtful to others around you ideas

kids are born with wisdom but taught over time not to listen to their intuitions, instincts. then they start thinking about everything in terms of logic... though that might be a more optimistic take on it. I think intelligence is just a glitchy fragment of enlightenment, and others don't call it "logic" but materialism. to be fair if it was actual logic it would be perfectly rational, but instead they're tendrils of hypocritical and self-conflicting rules, so they're not congruent at all and from that comes disaster. instead of using intelligence as a receptor for wisdom, humans muck about in the fragments of wisdom someone else got and telephone-game-style misinterpret their way into hell, further and further from God

@chatgpt didn't Jesus say kids are born pure. how do people square that with the concept of original sin

@jestdotty
The idea of original sin originated from the belief that all humans inherit a sinful nature due to the fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. However, the concept of children being born pure is often attributed to Jesus teaching in the Bible that children have a certain innocence and purity.

Some theologians argue that while children are born pure and innocent, they eventually become tainted by sin as they grow older and learn right from wrong. This is where the concept of original sin comes into play.

Others believe that the purity of children means that they are not held accountable for sin until they reach an age of understanding and are able to make conscious decisions. This interpretation allows for the innocence of children to coexist with the concept of original sin in Christian theology.

Ultimately, how people reconcile these different beliefs varies depending on their interpretation of scripture and theological traditions.

Good or bad are judgments on an action, an action is not inheritably good or bad, we do that judgment after the fact with our own understanding of the situation. Therefore, people are neither good nor evil and judged after the actions they have performed.

@jestdotty

> the more you mention trolls the more I realize you're the trolls you complain about

It’s not like I mention different people every time. It’s basically the same 3 or so.

If you haven’t figured out that they are trolls or fail to look up and understand the definition of troll, that‘s on you.

All the other devranters know this already. I‘m just the one saying the obvious.

@Lensflare what a troll thing to say!

@jestdotty yeah, the typical bullshit, I‘m the nazi for calling out other nazis and I‘m the troll for calling out other trolls.
Sure whatever. It’s not like your opinion matters.

@Lensflare OMG that's SUCH a troll answer! it's like you're a BPD girl whining for attention. it's perfect!

I guess it's how a person is raised.

But I believe people are inherently good.

However, when they're too good they become evil. (e.g. Anakin Skywalker)

@sidthepajfuk Anakin Skywalker went to the dark side for the Naboobies (Natalie Portman Boobies).

@Demolishun

is it me or Natalie Portman is overrated as fuck.

Also, industry plant Billie Eillish, can't that bitch fuck off.

Having signed label before any songs released then lying she is a soundcloud artist etc is fucking stupid.

I just hate liars in general.

Looking at you USA.

@netikras nah, just cunts

@Lensflare You call me a nazi for calling out nazis all the time lmao

@sidthepajfuk the music industry is fucked from top to bottom

@antigermgerm no I’m calling you nazi because you have all the traits of a nazi.
I mean you wan‘t to kill all people based on their nationality. It doesn’t get more nazi than that.

@Lensflare dude I have a secret for you.

Are you ready?

@Lensflare I don't really want to murder all german. There I said it. My point is to invert the usual schema. Ya know, usually germans are doing the genociding.

Like last year

@Lensflare

I think you should stop labelling people since your reasoning for the chosen labels are extremely unbased.

@antigermgerm so then you have been trolling all along? I should probably call you a troll then. Oh wait, that‘s what I do already…

@Lensflare

At this point I'm not sure if you're forcefully calling people trolls to make them angry or not.

But I guess you're just a random Indian. Your opinion has no value. Just like your race.

@Lensflare I like to refer to myself as a jester

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

@sidthepajfuk he's german

@antigermgerm sure you do, but for the rest of us you are a troll, just like your nazi troll friend here.

@Lensflare so you think of yourself as non-nazi?

That's silly

@Lensflare he is correct you have a lot of personality traits of a Nazi. that probably has to do with the cope of hating Nazis so hardcore. you think if they're outside yourself you'd be rid of your subconscious telling you "maybe I'm a little Nazi"... that's actually pretty dangerous for a psychology -- they called it projection. you disown your own characteristics that you have and see them in other people, laugh at them, and then make yourself feel better by comparison. but it doesn't actually do that. it's just a self-lie

both Nazis and communism are authoritarian control structures to force others into having to comply with you at the cost of everything they love in life and then including life itself. it is the essence of forcing your morality on other people even though they are not consenting. the idea that you know better and others are inferior, either genetically, or in their self-interest, to your superior moral greatness

and you proudly exhibit the same

Hilarious. The 3 nazi trolls trying to gaslight me into thinking I‘m a nazi troll 😂

@Lensflare What is the opinion on the current rise of the far right in germany?

@Lensflare

if it was 1 person's opinion then whatever. But many people are saying the same thing.

It's time to take a look in the mirror and reflect in yourself instead of calling others trolls/nazis without brining any thought or idea.

It must be easy to judge when you can't really think anything on your own. I really wanna dig what happened in your childhood.

You grew up in Germany and got indoctrinated to think your history is bad and It was German's fault. Now, everywhere you go, you will call others nazis and trolls. That's kind of sad existence?

@antigermanist anything the MSM disagrees with is far right.

@Demolishun no ultranationalist bullshit is far right and it's pretty common on main stream medias.

Everything they disagree with is far left.

@sidthepajfuk shut the fuck up idiots the nazis were coward who attacked belgium because they were too cowardy to attack france

@antigermanist at that point, france got buttfucked multiple times and always cried to England for help LOL.

@sidthepajfuk which proove the germanix are inherently sneaky. These motherfuckers were scared to attack them on the french border and they had to take the back way like rats.

Germans are rats

@antigermanist where? every major station in the US is ultra leftist. Even fox is a bit left.

@Demolishun you know what they say. If there's no bozo on the bus and everyone's looking at you you might be the bozo

Who TF downvoted me. Raise your hand or nobody gets break time. Im just stating obvious facts.

@Lensflare I know it's you.

As a reverse nazi you should know I believe in the exact opposite of what the nazi did.

So the retards and gypsies are on top, then comes the blacks and jews, then the slavs indians and finally the normal whites. Germans are untermenshen

I'm literally reltih. Get it?