If everything is a secret, are they still secrets?

yes, because you don't know what they are.

the answer to this question is a secret

Nice, deep shower thought.

This reminds me of the liar paradox as well as the Facebook messaging analogy: it's like being invited to a party but shoving notes under each door.. Can we somehow model this into Set Theory? Hm. The pondering! Taking pen and paper.. let's see..

So.. philosophically we must understand the terms: what is a secret? It is something that is kept from knowledge or view (ref. dict). Though if everything is a secret, then they are in the same space. Everything can exist unacknowledged, as is currently, therefore it's all a secret. How can you not view everything.. hm.. that would lead to removal of consciousness. Hm... lastly: what is 'is'? Newtonian, Cartesian? Visibility for the first, consciousness for the second.

Yes

Everything can't be a secret. There must be some knowns.

But yes, they still are secrets.

Look at ssrs. 'secret' was the default

This reminds me of the time I tried to come up with rules for mixed n-tuples tennis, and then tried to further generalise it to z-tuples for complex z.

I might have to revisit that, actually.

@donkulator tuples? tennis? I don’t know wtf you are talking about but sounds interesting😄

You promised! That question was a secret!

ascend to the astral plane and know everyone's passwords

though make sure you're not possessed by a greedy 300 year old vampire first, sigh

Indeed, they are - the thing that makes them a secret is that it's not easily accessible what they are

@Lensflare So singles and doubles tennis (1-tuples and 2-tuples) are straightforward enough: to get the probability that the ball is returned you sum up the probability that each player returns the ball, over the set of n players. Generalising that to n-tuples is simple.

But what if, instead of summing over a set of n players, we integrate over a path of length z in complex space?

I'm not sure what comes next though.

@jestdotty https://youtube.com/watch/... lolol.