I find it strange. How can employers expect 8 hours of work a day out of you? I mostly get about 4 hours done, 5 if I'm top productive.

Well, you get pizza parties right /s

@BordedDev Not that often.. becaaaause.. The Finance Department has to approve it first. Woohoow, bureaucracy.

If your boss is making you do timesheets, then it's only a matter of time before he makes you do other stupid stuff, so you should probably leave.

@BordedDev My previous job had a pizza day once a month.

Current one, !so much.

OT: Some certainly do. My 1st employer was under the misapprehension that testers are there to find _every_ bug in the software to make it bug-free.

Yeah, sure - completely doable...

/s

That's still a lot. I get like 2 most days if I'm honest

@donkulator Standard company procedure for the standard process of time-logging so that the Main department can bill us correctly. How do you do it at your company? lol

Facts! That's what I thought as well. The last 4, I usually be in the office(we had small offices and team) just surfing the web, going to the senior dev talking about games, going to the kitchen for literally no reason, going to the back and mess with the IT guy, ect... Lol Once the first 4 are gone, I'm mentally checking out. 🤷🏾‍♂️

@DivSyntax Interesting... at all the companies I have been I always had to adhere to a strict 'no using internet for personal use/fun' rule.

@CaptainRant True. But, what they dnt knw, wont hurt'em. 🤫 🤭

That is the correct number. Between 20 and 25! I have found it immensely easier to communicate 25. Like, 1000% easier!

But the fuck-faces in PM office and at other levels in this comedy roadshow find it hard to accept the dynamics of our game in different phases and qualities of software engineering projects. They do not understand and are NOT willing to accept the number 20. 25 on the other hand, being just 25% bigger, they have absolutely no problem with. They hate it. But they will accept it and move on. I find that thing my paramount task of my job. That is ome of the reasons why I get paid nowadays. I buy developing time and I make projects more expensive. Where applicable.

The real fact is that the number varies with a wide range of parameters including time and books have been written about the uniqueness of effectiviness of a large variety of situations.