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That really sucks... I'm sorry your company is being run by a piece of shit. There's only one solution.
Kill the new guy. -
Danerd2307yTalk to your boss about this topic. Everytime I did I got a raise.. and if not, then they don't deserve you!
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kickass19857y@orijin people who work for same company for more that 2 years get paid less in the same company.
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snap1227yJust talk to your boss.
At least he will know that you are not stupid. Than you will see what to do next. -
bahua129057ySince when has fairness ever been a feature of compensation in the private sector? Your junior co-worker is a better negotiator than you. That doesn't entitle you to additional compensation. And I hate to burst your bubble, but you're not going to get it at your current job, unless you get an outside offer to leverage. And in that case, you'll change the relationship between you and your employer to a much more adversarial one.
If you want better compensation, your best bet is to get it somewhere else, and take the lesson on the importance of negotiation to heart. -
Search for a new job (trust me you can find a better one)
Get a job offer in-hand
Leverage a raise
If they refuse a raise, take the new job
I've done it three times in my career and I've always upgraded. Maybe I'm just lucky, but companies have no loyalty anymore, neither should you -
Jackeast5117y@spoiledgoods I agree with you. Sometimes it better to end your ties to the company you've been working for even if you feel needed. If they are not paying you what you deserve another company will
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zeknoss10677yI would suggest you to read Third Wave from Alvin Toffler. This matter has been handled and explained very well along with all other problems industries have.
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Though I'm still young and worked for only four years in companies, I assure you that:
1. No one gives a shit, once they are done with your skills you are out
2. As long as you don't talk about a raise, they will not do it, and if they did, it will be around 50 to 100$
3. They will be nice and say all is cool but when shit happens it is always your damn fault
Always look for your benefits, if the company will fall apart after you leave then it is their damn problem, they should've took a good care of you and not make you reach the point where you must leave -
cino407yA lot of comments above make sense. One thing you can do is pull back a little. Work your hours in your contract. One life lesson here is to not work overtime for free. Simple rules:
1. The other party should request over time always.
2. A trade is always required. Recognition, payment, time off in lieu, stock options....
The moment you devalue yourself so does the other party. -
orijin20217yFolow up:
I always worked overtime on request and always got recognition or payment for it. My boss is geberally a cool guy and I couldn't understand why it's like that, so I asked for an explanation.
Turns out the other guy is bound by some collective contract from previous employment, and he is bound by law to give they paycheck defined by it or not hire him at all.
I got out with a higher paycheck so I'm not going anywhere. -
This is a very common occurrence at my company, and not even because of salary negations. My boss is very set on the salary he offers people when they get hired. If they want more, he says "Sorry, this is what I'm offering you. If you want more, you'll need to work your way up." That being said, it raises an issue of brand new inexperienced developers getting hired at a higher salary than tenured developers who have been there for years just because the current going base salary is higher than the salary a current employee would work their way up to via their yearly raises. When I got hired, I find out that I was making more than a more experienced developer who had been working there for 3 years at that point. I didn't negotiate my offer at all, it's just that the base salary I was hired at was the current going rate for a developer at my company at that time, and that just so happened to be higher than what he was getting paid after working there for 3 years. They've since tried to even this out, and gave all of us raises to make things a bit more consistent. But in my opinion, the pay difference between an experienced developer who has been working at the company for years and a new developer is way too close
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I've put my blood, sweat and tears into this company in the past years. Worked overtime, evenings, weekends, night shifts to get shit done and helped out in sharing knowledge only to learn a new guy who's still learning has 200 bucks higher pay check than me.
I'm not even sure how to react to this.
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