@jestdotty they are not per se, but ironically I haven’t found a single woman in IT who haven’t faced at least some of them (me and you included).

Indeed some women do end up propagating this type of shit, which doesn’t make the situation better.

Sorry to say, but women do not lose interest, they are pushed out.

Let’s do an imagination exercise: would you work or be in IT when everyone around you will act like your IQ is lower than an amoeba, belittle, ignore or when it’s convenient steal your ideas and give credit instead to a random dude. Ah, and don’t forget, on every interaction with teammates, they will explain to you what you already know, no matter how many times you tell them that you know it.

Ah you said “well paid field”, you’re not getting that. Get -30% IF you’re lucky. But don’t worry, you’ll have extra responsibilities like glue work, taking notes and other BS that someone above you will decide to. All of this while being stuck to a lower seniority, being very aware of other’s paycheck, not having any sort of support AND hearing from everyone else that N other fields could pay the same with half of the stress.

Would you really stick around? I can’t blame them for leaving

@lorentz how long ago you had that experience? Wondering if it’s still happening this nowadays

If you start another category “problems that GPT can solve with minimal grooming” the intersection will will be even smaller 🫠

I am on the same boat of feeling that my paycheck was supposed to allow me to have a better living standard.

I try to tell myself that it’s a Canadian thing (I’m also here) and that maybe somewhere else things are better, who knows where…

I rejected an offer once after meeting the CEO (it was horrible) and since then I always feel like it’s a red flag if it’s part of the interview.

Like, why anyone would think that having a CEO participating of the hiring process would be a good idea?

@tosensei after I heard the designers telling me that they don’t think ppl use dark mode and that they would deprioritize it from the new designs, I don’t doubt you

Develop better/healthier coping mechanisms, have a life-changing experience or do something for others. Can do all of them at the same time, or just a single one, but can’t think of any other alternatives.

Congrats!

I thought that shotgun debugging meant that one person would start to delete code from the flow until they find out where is the problem is…

@jestdotty a lot of brazilians fall back to their language because majority of population didn’t get proper English education, but I also have seen a lot of russians speaking like nobody can understand them lol

@netikras I’d love to, I’m living in another country and the plan was to take a vacation while visiting them to get to enjoy some quality time together, but now I guess the plan is to wait the results to decide when to go.

So I’m trying to save the vacation days, but I’m definitely a mess right now.

@kanyewest indeed, but that doesn’t make it less shitty.

It’s never to late to continue applying and pretend you’ve never had the unhappiness of stepping in this clusterfuck

@Demolishun maybe it’s both 😆

@Demolishun nope. New stuff, nothing to do with him or his team.

@Demolishun the situation I’m facing is even awkward- assigned a bug to the junior, sent them the instructions how to reproduce, and what were the acceptance criteria to consider it solved.

But said to them that they had the freedom to propose how to solve it and gave a few tips that would help. First attempt, the changes were in the wrong place. Second attempt, there are things missing.

I chewed the bug in an attempt to make them understand the task and the product better and looks like they used this to feed the AI, which in turn gave the right answer. But then when I asked the how, seems like since they didn't understand neither, the solution was to send me the AI response.

If the person had at least reached the point of having enough understanding to get the prompt to work, it would be one thing. But here, I am a little bit astonished with the situation.

Prevent copy and paste, add groups of inputs without clear indicator of how many digits they accept nor if they should have space. Upon typing space, jump to next group and make it quite hard to bring the cursor back to the correct position when space was pressed.

@kanyewest

I also wouldn’t have any problems to accept other solutions if the person came to me and said, “I tried to come up with another solution, and tried this, that does meet all the requirements of the ticket and the goal you’ve explained”.

But this also doesn’t happen. I tried to give contained tasks where person would have an opportunity to ask questions and experiment, but no avail. No questions, nothing.

@kanyewest nah, I’ll gladly take my fault whenever it is due. But this one isn’t. Manager themselves were clear since the beginning that this person didn’t have background in programming, nor in the fundamentals.

If you say to person what they need to achieve, by doing the following step by step, where each step has examples how to do, and what they should see as a result on each step.

I’d gladly take fault if the person replied to me that none of it made sense or by asking questions. Person doesn’t do so, and instead says that they understood everything and that what I said made perfect sense.

Then person proceeds to avoid asking questions and to show anything in a way that allows me to properly give feedback. By the time person claim that the task is done, all the steps were ignored, without any reasoning why, when in fact, before writing all that material, I did test everything and made sure that it was correct and that it solves the problem.

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@jestdotty there’s no task I can give to this person that I won’t be disturbed up to the point of losing focus. Asked them to fix some warnings, by type casting some variables. Simple enough, right?

I got at least 8 messages about it, besides a 30 minutes meeting. I had hopes they would be able to figure out things once I gave very specific directions, then junior decided to do yolo and say that they didn’t understand as they insisted on the wrong approach. 🫠

I like it a lot, but don’t recommend using the windows version yet.

Never found a protein that would taste good with water. Anything tastes better, even skimmed milk.

@jestdotty it’s kind of complicated. When all of this started I was told by manager that I’d be leading this project, now all the conversation changed to manager is the boss, that they and designers know what they are doing and all the mind games are things out of my head because designers said that I’m almost God myself (which doesn’t make sense by the way they treat me).

I’ve been working on not being targeted in certain meetings because they would do their best to paint me as incompetent, laugh on me and then disregard whatever said, even though they asked in first place.

Manager today said for me to do my best to speak and give my opinions in that exact meeting, so I feel like manager is in cahoots as they are too happy with things going this way.

@jestdotty had 1:1 and they told me very happily that designers’ idea of cutting scope.

It even feels surreal to me, how come someone just decides to deliver a quarter of the promised thing and manages to transform that into something positive. And every meeting they just carefully speak about the topic without saying out loud that scope is being cut or whom the hell decided to cut this scope and everyone is perfectly fine with everything.

Maybe I’m being paranoid but everything looks like a setup to me where they blame me, and play hero for “saving the project by delivering a quarter”

@jestdotty found out today that my manager and the designers are in cahoots. Pretty sure that I’ll be sacked at the end of this project 😞

@TeachMeCode yes. Had a complete brain fart trying to remember if it was necessary to do a git fetch, or if a git pull was enough.

In the past there was a debate in the team between pointing bugs or not.

The argument to not do so was that it would be necessary time to investigate the bug to be able to properly point it, creating a ticket to investigate a bug was counterproductive and therefore estimating wrong was the same effect of not estimating.

Possibly that could be an argument for QA? But if the QA is for a story that has 5 points, would it be too wrong to assume that QA would be around that?