@tokumei what's funny is that for server side code, like in a typical SaaS, any GPL code can be used and does not need to shared, so in effect it works just like MIT license or the other more permissive licenses. Only way to protect your code is AGPL it seems

You have a ROOM?!

My best time was installing Arch, then a week later upgrading it and my Xorg config no longer worked so I no longer had a desktop environment... hilarious fun.

Who are you and how do i get you to be my coworker

@iNCEPTiON a crappier direction, one where they fire peoppe to be able to hire cheap developers and give bonuses to whoever remains.

Did HR sit in on that meeting? It's fun to see the politics at work.

@omgashnames this kind of stuff proves we live in an over productive society. People like that should be working an hour a day, going home to hang out and chill instead of wasting time.

That is a funny one, not sad like the other ridiculous meetings lol

Yeeeeah open source is weird. Like the love for google and github and slack (all proprietary with alternatives that could be better if we worked on them instead).

Annnnnnd this is why I keep saying devs need to stand up for themselves. I think this is why lawyers love hourly pay. Waste an hour of their time in a meeting and it will cost you big time.

And thats why theres a market for backend databases like parse and firebase

@Rekonnect tbh thats standard wear for work from home developers

Annnnd this is why devs should be involved in bizniz ops, biz dev, marketing and sales. We build systems and all of those are just more systems.

This is what they should have done years ago. The Extend, Embrace, Extinguish strategy as much as I dislike it, actually works. As long as they stop and extend and embrace I am also super happy with Microsoft. Bring on more open source!

This is basically why software people have to run their own businesses and even that isn't enough because most devs don't know enough about security.

So glad things are changing if slowly.

Until there are lawsuits and class actions, software won't magically become secure.

Eh, if you know how to set that up by yourself, start contracting. Exams on php where you live code is insanity!

Nice! Hope you got a nice pay bump with it

Netflix eh?

More money fixes a lot heh, heheheh

I was reading Developer Hegemony and apparently interviews havent always been used in industries. Usually at most companies you just talk and go over a portfolio, you dont talk about trivia. In an interview I would rather know about how you used some CS knowledge in the real worls rather than get you to explain an algorithm.

Smaller dev shops can be more fair if theyre setup as a consultancy that hires you as a corporation or if theyre setup as a cooperative.

All dev shops pay far less than they should (big companies actually worked together to keep salaries down! That google developer making 300k should probably be making 400k at this point)

In the end you will only get a good deal when you setup your own dev shop as an owner.

This is why i like devops and sysadmin work, its based on being reactive and interrupt driven. Interrupt me all you want! Linux updates are running! I have time!

But then when it comes to actual coding, not just scripts...stfu and leave me alone for a few hours so i can THINK.

This is why programmers shift their schedule to when people arent awake and get more done in the few hours before work or way late at night.

This is the biggest problem in our industry, we argue more about languages rather than about why we arent able to get paid more and cant work on more interesting projects.

Im all for language wars but its getting tiring.

Need bizniz skills alongside coding. I always hear Fred Brooks's comment from The Mythical Man Month in my head whenever people talk about writing apps. "It takes 3x effort to make a library, 3x that to make a product, and 3x that to make a system."

My advice is to get used to working with clients and write your own small apps on the side. Pick one of your apps and turn it into a product. Use the money from freelancing to hire graphic designers or coding interns to help on the side project.

Client work is difficult because its more than just coding.

Grunt work! Go find 5 interns to do it and then kick back and watch the clouds crawl across the sky.

Soon enough complaining about poor work conditions and the way we only get, at best, 50% of what we're worth.

Vive la devRant!

I would strongly advise learning some marketing and project management and other business skills, not just programming. It pays off big time when you know what activities in a company actually drive revenue and how much $$$ your work generates or saves the company.

Whats painful is that this kind of crap gets ingrained at an organizational level and is tightly coupled. To become senior developer there will require knowing all sorts of arcane bullshit about their custom framework. Better just to collect paychecks and work with open source.

Get a new job, and post a review on glassdoor, it isnt right especially in this labor market that a developer is subjected to loud noises.