Weeks of coding will save you from hours of collaboration and design.

I feel like product teams are like sales people. Leave people happy with bullshit and walk away and collect the commission(accolades) and leave someone else to clean up the mess.

@atheist I resemble this. “Where are your classes?” I’m a functional programmer, does that buzzword work for you? FO, it works and doesn’t have users.

I want to know where a McDonald’s with waiters is located. Surly people at a counter != waiter.

Congrats! You’ll start bitching(ranting) any day now.

@NickyBones don’t forget “you should smile more, people will think you’re friendlier.” But…I’m not friendlier, that’s the point.

@NickyBones I can relate, but not for looks. I told a manager that his server was about to crash…he ignored me. 1 hour later he came and said “the server is down!” And I said “yeah I told you it was about to happen so you could prevent that” and he responded “oh that was real? I thought you were just being whiny.” I can’t think of one of the male engineers I work with ever being considered “whiny” on a critical server memory issue….but I’m sure we’re all treated the same. 🙄

@NickyBones I hope I didn’t start that thread, but I probably did. While on the whole this place is better than say Reddit, it’s still sorta cringy to see some of the outright sexual comments in relation to a tech rant. Like “just go squeeze some tits” isn’t a thing we’re likely to do if we identify with the op, even if it’s a suggested method of dealing with said rant (no judgments if you do).

I agree with the death by a thousand cuts and feeling like you’re on a island, even tho in reality it’s just being the only woman at the table. It’s better than it was, but it still ain’t awesome.

@johnmelodyme yeeeeah, but he earned instant cred with half the room. The other half are going to HR. How did everyone not bust out laughing, I know I would…or start clapping.

I mean…

Have you ever been to Seattle? I mean, do you already know you won’t like it?

When you’re only willing to work with people of similar persuasion, sounds like the thing they argue against in the workplace. Does not compute, for any pronoun.

I think the hardest part for me to get over was the gil. All other frameworks I had were async in nature until I started with python. I mean there are workarounds, asyncio, threading, etc, but it made me irritated that I had to….while writing services in flask and needed it to go and do the things…at the same time.

I’d take depressing over how political it got there. I had to block more connections than I was comfortable with. Who knew so many people were batshit crazy and willing to put it in a professional forum. I suppose I should thank them for alerting me, while also terrifying me.

@Alt-Tab no, they actually had my name, but still…makes me want to beat them with the cane and dentures they think I have.

@IntrusionCM cookies = socks now?

@PonySlaystation python is your ex who wanted compliments, shoes and dinner, but only one at a time.

@irene I agree with you on this. I think it is hard to achieve high positions for women in tech and bypass the bias. The answer is not to just exclude the other gender to try to avoid it. Problems get solved together. I have a woman on my team I have to fire next week because she’s not cutting it. I will not leave her on the team because she’s female…they still have to be good. I don’t have bad male engineers on the team either tho.

I still think the bias is real, but that doesn’t make me think all women are good either. Both can be true.

@Fast-Nop you beat me to this. “What is a “while”, Alex”

I have 2 python teams I hire jrs for all the time. I don’t do coding tests but I can ask you what I’d ask any of them. No idea if that helps.

@Crost Real devs test in production and deploy on fridays.

Unless you’re locked into aws, then you use aurora. 😑

You are expecting a restore to fail. Everyone is talking about backups, which is all true, but also testing restores on a semi regular basis to make sure that works is also a thing. Backing it up for years and never making sure it can come back will haunt you, and yes, that’s where fake your death comes in.

@Hazarth all of what <— said. Remember systems fail, not people. Things fall out of the process all the time and so do prod issues and reverts. Remember when all of Apple went down due to an incorrect dns entry from one guy? Shit happens and we fix it. Welcome to engineering, do your job to the best of your ability and trust in what you can do. Also, never start with how the problem happened vs how to get out of the problem. Some product manager somewhere will ask for a retrospective later, after it’s fixed and redeployed, and you should talk about where the process failed not any individual.

The stork, we’ll call him Jenkins, drops off containers and gently lays them in the cloud?

No they google it, just like every other dev in every other framework. No one that I know remembers every syntax option always. Sr developer=expert googler with good architecture skills.

@Floydimus yeah, but we went off the rails when json was thrown out. Nerds gonna nerd.

My excel rants are always about building a process around a damn excel.(worst thing ever, mind you) and then operations goes “oh we had a contract around format?” Yeah, we’re not doing that and it needs to work anyway. Variable input automation makes me want to punch screens.

@IntrusionCM hmmm, trying hard not to disagree, but depending on the json complexity, pandas makes that part super easy. Read json (whatever way) into python, create dataframe from dict and smush it around how you want and then for display options df.to_excel. I have given up years of doing excel formulas and custom macros in favor of pandas, but I still use excel charts.

@Root seems like dr who already has that patent

Glitter doors!!