Hate to admit it but: I went back to Windows on my dev machine after running Linux as main OS for like 10 years. I came to the point where I'm tired of driver problems and broken bootloaders and just want things to work...

Honestly, I'm an avid user of Windows, Linux and Mac and I feel it's not worth it to use this many OSes. Instead of seeking some secret perfect setup that does not exist, you just get what I refer to as OS Traveller's Syndrome. In my opinion, just choose whatever works and try not to think about it.

Welcome back! 💃

Me too, Linux have many problems with device compatibility and sudden-broken things

@lazyDev
Sudden Broken things? Things do not just break m8.

they do @Linux

@sovietspy2
No.

@Linux it really depends on the hardware you're running on. If the parts build into it a common, it'll likely just work fine but dare you if you have some exotic parts in your laptop...

@Linux "Suddenly broken things?" One word: Bootloader

@theZorgEffect
Software does not brake, you have to perform some sort of upgrade or change the software in some way

If you buy stuff thatbis fully supported, you will have no issues. Regardless of the OS.

This is why Mac stuff "just work"

Honestly I think windows just has more support (money!) behind it.

Other than that Linux is actually much more stable.

I'm using windows for dev too but I often find myself needing to switch to Linux to do "that thing that doesn't work on windows"... Or...You know... When I just miss bash!!

Since moving away from windows to linux I've had a much more stable system. If something breaks and you're running a stable distro version (like an ubuntu LTS or the like) it's much more probable that you broke it.

Ok we all know that no OS is 'perfect' and without problems !
But on Linux, you might waste your time to fix things like bootloader, mouse gone, luminosity totally black sometimes. We don't find those on Windows (and windows has its own problems but less frequent)

@Linux Haha, but you NEED to update it for things like security fixes.

Well hey.. whatever works best for you i guess. Enjoy your spyware guys ;) :P

@drRoss
Yes, but people are stupid and perform upgrades to major version (apt-get dist-upgrade) instead of minor version (apt-get upgrade)

Minor version does not change any function/features, just bugfixes.

@mundo03 until it doesn't at which point you ought to buy a new device

$$$ bitch $$$

Good that windows works out for you! I literally haven't had any driver issues or anything yet really but my reasons for using Linux are probably different than yours anyways :)

@ivanvcouso Yup indeed. I've even had NVidia drivers (open source ones) and not a single problem ever.

@Linux maybe not just break, but years ago I had two identical laptops, installed Linux mint on both one worked absolutely fine, the other always had weird issues, graphics would crash, wouldn't shutdown properly. And the end user was always coming to me for help. Gave him windows 10 he's not been back since

@ivanvcouso when Linux bootloader fucks up its not so simple to repair if you are talking an end user through it

@linuxxx ah the bad old days of redhat 4 device drivers were a real pain in the hoop

@philcr Although I've never had a bootloader problem, I thought the context here is tech users?

@antonis179 there is even bash in windows now

I am using linux since last 5 years. Never had a driver issue except broadcom wireless. Their linux drivers are pure shit. period.

@linuxxx but that doesn't mean that you want to have to fix your computer. Guess most people just want it to work.

The only OS I don't have experience with is mac.

Windows is my main with Linux in a vm.

@papierbouwer True and it has always just worked for me 😃

I work so much faster on my Mac, I figure it's mainly due to the trackpad, there are many other reasons, 3 finger text select FTW! It's very rare something doesn't work.

On my Linux machine, it took days to get my internal wifi card running, the Bluetooth isn't working, I just gave up on it. I'm not saying Linux is at fault, clearly it's me, and my lack of willingness to research relentlessly. I guess I feel I shouldn't have to, shit should just work.

My win box starts to get sluggish after about a year. I have to deal with the cleaning it up process, it's so much easier to wipe it and start with a fresh install. Such a pain to have to do this, I mean settings and files stored in a the cloud help, but configuring windows sucks. Every trackpad I've tried so far, besides Apple's, feels cheap or doesn't support gestures.

I used my Mac for dev work. I use my win box game related stuff. I run BackTrack on my laptop for some pen-testing stuffs. Every os has it's purpose.

Windows + virtual box with linux ;)

@rangler iMac vm: debian vm: windows 7 vm: windows: 10 vm: Ubuntu

Mustard race confirmed

Yeah desktop Linux has gotten a lot better but is still too much work in my opinion. I use os x because it's a bsd environment but either one works.

I have them both on hard
Currently rocking mint but will move to kali or parrot os for some security testing project
It's the best option I think

You ran linux as your main OS for 10 years. Hmm...

With your bootloader, did you run Windows beside it on another partition or was it UEFI related?

Never had issues with a bootloader unless it was loaded in previously by the manufacturer who preferred Windows. Then you just start clean.

Had to customizer and build parts of an EFI just to remove their Windows preference on a laptop machine. I even ended up with a corrupt BIOS after I just removed Windows and recovery partitions to start fresh with a linux install.

Your problem could be manufacturer related. I see this more frequently now with manufacturers of Ultrabooks. Where they "prepare" the machine and set up the hardware to run Windows. Of course this is always changeable and if you need help with a wifi card or a GPU driver then you also ask people that had figured that out for that machine or that type of hardware.

Also Linux is constantly changing and evolving. Issues you might have had yesterday get fixed today.

@lazyDev If something gets broken on Windows then you are left with these options:

- reinstall driver (sane way)
- reinstall system (insane way)
- just leave it (coward way)

If something breaks in registry or a service gets in its own way. Then you are basicly hunting for bugs.

In Linux you get hardware compatibility issues because of a driver, and when you install the correct one, you never hear from them again.

In Windows, you get hardware compatibility issues even if you have the correct driver. Because it sometimes breaks and you deem that tolerable.

Linux has a steep learning curve before you can fix things on your own.

In Windows you weren't meant to fix things. You can install and deinstall drivers and other software, jump in the jungle of registry, stop/start services no one knows purposes to, edit inf files and delete temp files and hope that solves your problems and call that fixing.

And you wonder how people get bald?

@unfinishedCode windows 10 seems to bog down less but I know what you mean