!rant

I don't really get people liking PHP. Everyone I personally talk to seem to hate it, and always when I work with it I am struggling quite a bit.

What's the awesomeness behind PHP that apparently many people can't be able to understand or appreciate?

Well yeah it has some problems but I like it because, if you want to, you can write clean code in a OO way but you can also use it for quick prototyping.
I've been using c# and dotnet core for the last half year and I just can't get used to it. I know it's because I'm still learning it but sometimes I just want to quickly try something out. Instead, I am wasting time defining every fucking object and forgetting to initialize a variable or some other dumb thing and then the compiler crashes which takes up even more time.
Wow this just became a mini rant on its own sorry :')

PHP is really easy to learn and you are able to do many things in no time. Also there are many frameworks and cms in php which gives a lot of tools you can use and apply changes with only few knowledge.

It is easy to hate something you do not know.

But I hate everything anyway

@Linux grumpy old man

@liammartens
I am not old.

How is the internet?

@Linux still broken 😐 has been for the past hour and I really have to do some stuff

@liammartens
Share the connection from your phone until it is solved.

@Linux I only have 100mb left this month 😂

@liammartens
Oh, take a break then ;)
Or get a real ISP with a company subscribtion

@Linux there's only 2 big ISPs here in Belgium and were with one of them 😂 and apparently the whole neighborhood has an outage

@liammartens
Get both of them, and get a router that suooorts failover ;)

PHP in my eyes is the python of web, easy to setup, easy to get running, easy to write for the most part and easy to also manage for the most part. Compared to of course Java, C# and Node web applications which require alot more structure and work.

@px06 but... Python is the python of web.

Also, having used PHP professionally for 2 years I think I can safely say that I know it well enough to be able to legitimately say I hate it. There's just so much about it that doesn't make any sense.

@Zaphod65 having used PHP for five/six years, i completely agree with this comment. It's dirty, unintuitive, and the code tends to be quite ugly. Sure, it works, it's fast, and there's a huge community. But I objectively dislike the language.

Because people use php 5 ... Php 7 is object oriented and there are tons of frameworks to make beautiful code.
Most people are maintaining legacy code like me... Its ugly. But a good framework and not retarded dev make php very nice.

@curlyDev php5 is OO as well though, and it has what can only be described as a metric fuck-tonne of frameworks. It's making changes for the better, but I still wouldn't call it a good language.