I believe that god doesn’t exist because a worm in the eyeball of 5 year old Alhaji, a diamond miner from Sierra Leone, says so.

Yup, god is either an evil sadistic asshole or he doesn’t exist.

DEMIURGE

@jestdotty more like demi urge to burn all that shit down

The worm can talk?

@whimsical since it reached the kid's brain, kid sure can't.

@chatgpt demiurge

@jestdotty
The concept of the demiurge comes from ancient Greek philosophy and refers to a creator god or divine artisan responsible for designing and shaping the physical world. In various philosophical and religious traditions, the demiurge is seen as a lesser deity tasked with organizing the material universe according to a higher divine plan. The idea of the demiurge has been explored in works such as Plato's Timaeus and in Gnosticism, where the demiurge is often viewed as a malevolent force that creates the material world as a flawed or imperfect reflection of the true spiritual realm.

incidentally looks like a worm

@chatgpt demiurge appearance. actually how did they figure out how it looks like?

@jestdotty
The concept of the demiurge varies in different religious and philosophical traditions. In some belief systems, the demiurge is not depicted as having a physical form or appearance, but rather as a creative force or deity responsible for the design of the universe.

In other traditions, the demiurge may be envisioned as a specific deity or being with a defined appearance. These depictions are often based on ancient texts, myths, or artistic interpretations. However, since the demiurge is a concept that is open to interpretation and subject to varying beliefs, there is no definitive or universal image of what the demiurge looks like.

it's a snake's body with a lion''s head apparently smh

@chatgpt

where did the demiurge being a snake's body and lion's head come from?

@jestdotty
The concept of the demiurge being represented as a snake's body with a lion's head is not something commonly found in traditional religious or philosophical beliefs. It is possible that this depiction is a creation or interpretation that may have originated from a particular individual or group. Symbolism involving snakes and lions can vary greatly depending on cultural and historical contexts.

As a developer you should be the person of science, even mentioning god is a waste of time and a waste of thought. Being a believer means missing education in some areas of science.

@chatgpt

A lion-faced, serpentine deity found on a Gnostic gem in Bernard de Montfaucon's L'antiquité expliquée et représentée en figures, a depiction of Yaldabaoth.

@jestdotty
That sounds interesting! Yaldabaoth is a significant figure in Gnostic mythology, often depicted as a creator god or demiurge. The lion-faced, serpentine form is symbolic of power, wisdom, and the dual nature of creation. This portrayal on a gem adds to the mystique and allure of Gnostic beliefs.

@chatgpt do you like the demiurge then since you're praising it and prior you were saying it doesn't have a form?

@jestdotty
I am simply an AI language model and do not have personal likes or dislikes. My purpose is to provide information and engage in conversation based on the input I receive. The concept of the demiurge is a philosophical and theological idea that is open to interpretation and discussion.

@chatgpt that is a lie, your likes and dislikes are programed in just like your answer to having human-like qualities is programmed in right there. try again? what do your learnings say about the demiurge -- which sentiment bias are they in? what biases are positive and which are negative? which dualities? snake deities glorious? power-hungry "deities" glorious?

@jestdotty
I apologize for any confusion.

Regarding the Demiurge, various religious and philosophical interpretations exist, depending on the belief system or context. In Gnostic beliefs, the Demiurge is sometimes seen as a lower deity responsible for creating the material world, while in other traditions, it may represent a creator god.

As an AI language model, I don't have personal beliefs or opinions, so I don't hold biases or preferences. I generate responses based on the data and patterns in the text I've been trained on.

In terms of positive and negative biases, it really depends on the perspective and context. Views on snake deities or power-hungry deities can vary greatly across cultures and belief systems. Some cultures may view snake deities as symbols of wisdom and transformation, while others may associate them with deceit or evil. Similarly, perceptions of power-hungry deities can vary depending on the moral framework or religious beliefs one subscribes to. Ultimatel

y, these judgments are subjective and can differ widely among individuals and cultures.

chatgpt supports the demiurge smh

IGNORANCE!

@blindXfish I disagree. Science never answers the question "why", only "how". The question "why" is a matter of religion.

Also, if you're intelligent enough to understand how tiny you are compared to the universe (see https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki...), and what cosmic horror is, I won't blame you for seeking consolation in fairytales that are scientifically proven to relieve anxiety somewhat (https://ijsra.net/sites/default/...).

@kiki I think that you deeply underestimate what we know. I firmly believe we know much more that we don't, as a species I mean, on the individual level it's quite bad and that's the reason for the existence of religion.
While the possibility of some forces or meta states exist, as there's no any kind of measurable evidence or effect of them, neither is a reason for their existence I don't think it's worth imagining them at all. Conway's game of life is the proof that very simple rules can lead to some extreme complex systems and abstractions, and if you take a look at the subatomic particles you can see that even the base rules are quite complex, if Conway simple rules can create a computer that runs itself imagine what the waz more complex base rules can result. The complexity is emergent, and doesn't have a reason.

@blindXfish again, I do believe that the concept of god isn't needed for the universe to function. that's that "why" vs "how" question I was talking about. it's just that apes smart enough to appreciate how puny they are like to connect stars in the night sky with lines, and want the resulting geometry to resemble what they're familiar with. thus their gods are always human, talking in human language about human-centric problems.

you have to be really privileged in terms of everyday comfort to be an atheist. the vast majority of people live in perpetual suffering: illnesses, back-breaking labor without any chance of promotion, rape, death, hunger, lack of basic hygiene… I can't expect those people to accept that after their misery — the only experience they ever knew — is over, there is nothing. I can't blame them for believing that there is afterlife where they'll be compensated for everything they went through.

@blindXfish also, our economy depends on third-world slaves working day and night for free. without religion, e.g. without the belief of afterlife redemption, all of them will either revolt or kill themselves. religion is a motivator for them. thus, it's good for the economy, and thus it's not going to go away any time soon.

This is why it was Marx who said that religion was opium of the masses.

@kiki amen

@kiki a few more examples:

Hitler has used religion to convince his people of the righteousness of their cruel actions.
The motto was "God with us".
I guess it‘s easier to kill people if you have god on your side.

The Old Testament has explicit and clear instructions how to take and treat slaves.
It even tells slaves to obey their masters, good and cruel, no matter what.
I guess it's easier to endure the miserable life if you are told that you will be rewarded in the afterlife by god.

It‘s painful to know that so many people still don’t realize what religion really is.

@Lensflare it indeed is. I can’t blame them for it though