Stop calling non-engineers engineers.

Vibe engineers

@retoor someone that's a member of an accredited engineering organization is an engineer.

Like the CSPE for instance, or whatever other countries have

as a javascript engineer, I resent that

@retoor

be academically qualified
have obtained sufficient acceptable engineering work experience in area of qualification
be competent in the English Language
be of good character
demonstrate an understanding of professional practice and ethics issues

For the academically qualified bit, you'll need an undergraduate degree, but those are obtainable with work experience and an assessment I believe

@retoor That is the official measure, yes. There are various types of engineers, but they should have the degree stating so at the very least. Not to forget that that education comes with heavy mathematics and science the person went through to earn the title.

... you literally have to be accepted by a secret society and given a ring and then the government officially gives you a paper or something saying you're an engineer

also I think there are yearly dues or something

but I am annoyed that job posts say they want an "engineer". technically it would be illegal then for them to hire anyone not accredited (and anyone hired can be sued for fraud because they give you said title... which you have no control over because they're the ones giving you it)... and you can get 7 different computer science degrees in my big city, and only one of them makes you an engineer and it's the one basically no one goes through because it has no applicable specialty so you won't look good to jobs because you're a generalist instead of a "web dev" or a "application dev"

As someone who maintains and/or builds steam engines, fuck all you needs for appropriating my title!!

Seriously though, people being pretentious about titles is so gay

vibe engineers

@retoor this was a Canadian requirement for an English province.

Likely French in a French province, and either in New Brunswick.

yeah. stop calling javascript-developers developers.

Yes I am a developer
Software engineers don't exist