TIL that our creative design team that produces our web designs/layouts are all print designers. They were stumped when I gave them a wireframe mock up as the base for a website design for the first time, with no defined pixel measurements.

I don't trust designers when they don't css, especially when it comes to responsive. I once encountered a design that was responsive because it had a wireframe on it... ehr yeah... no...

Its like all responsibility stops when the jpegs are emailed to the client.

Having a designer who also knows CSS well feels like finding a unicorn... but that is such a critical skill for web design for sure.

Helps to know how your design will be applied when translated to the web.

@Vip3rDev sad really, any interface design is worth 0 when its not translated in to a real product, its just a picture. I don't get why anyone would settle for a skill that by it self is worth nothing. Its like working in a pizza place, but not being able to actually make a pizza, you can only do a (very) good job on the toppings.

haha! I am totally stealing that analogy. Amazing. @commanderkeen

@Vip3rDev
I've also had the opposite - half-ass 'designers' who think they're also dev capable (e.g. "I'll just jump in and change the css")... end up having no idea how to actually develop and consequently have 7 out of 8 PR's rejected.
I've had better luck working with designers who are collaborative (actually discuss what's technically possible and iteratively change designs) but don't jump into dev beyond a mockup.

@not-the-droid Yup I've encountered this as well, and it drives me crazy.

Had to explain the difference between responsive and adaptive design to a self titled "Web Designer" who loved to absolute position elements and then had massive changes within media queries to shift all these absolute positioned elements with more "mobile" absolute positioning.

I 😭 when I saw the stylesheets.

@Vip3rDev
As a side note... people don't seem to think css/sass stylesheet structure is important. A lot of devs hate it (so the css is a mess) or they're those cowboy 'web developers' who just place shit everywhere.
Maybe I'm just not working with enough decent front-end people...