@Root hes HR from the office

@Root just like fucking Toby.

@whiskey0 And you code in JavaScript mate.

@whiskey0 Is that supposed to be an insult? Oh crickey. Use your kangaroo brain for once: I am getting west salary and have such buying power that you have only in your dreams. Mate, go back to your rented apartment and wait until your parents die so you could actually own some real estate.

@whiskey0 My man, you are dealing with eastern european here, not a genz american. So most likely you would be knocked out and pissed your pants before even throwing your neckbeard punch ;)

My man, find better things to be pissed about

Works

Yeah I noticed that happing a lot. Working with this senior who has 6 years experience. I can see how in the past 6 months his hands are tied because of new codebase and bad documentation. What he does is he tries to introduce new things or refactor. But at the moment he is less efficient than a junior who worked here for 2 years and knows the codebase. It sucks but it takes time to digest everything especially if its a large codebase and u are thrown to work at random spots.

That kinda calmed me down as a junior dev. Because for some reason I expected seniors to be really good from the get go. So maybe your or your employers expectations are unrealistic?

Is this all you got?

Depends on a codebase, if its decent then yeah u can risk

@IntrusionCM is that.. a new js framework?

Daily warrior

@Root Golden handucuffs. You sold your soul mate

@Root please start taking care of yourself. You can go and see a doc, tell him that you collapsed. Get a doctors note for a paid sick leave. For one week or even two weeks. Dont even monitor company emails or slack. Fuck it. There are some things that are in your control which you can do if only you would stop being a perfectionist and would accept that you are a human being. Stop working yourself to grave. I worked in 6 jobs in Europe and have never witnessed such toxicity that you mentioned here. Fuck it even if I would notice such bullshit I would probably put in my 2 weeks and would land some chill remote junior position just to feed myself until I find something better. Please do something.

What they will do to you? Fire you? I assume you will still get paid for sick days and still get paid severance if they fire you, no? Try to relax and start applying to more places, do some interviews if you have the energy/strength.

@Root this stress will kill you... Why you care so much

Good that I dont have to work with OP's code

I dont think so. Most startups have a very pragmatic approach in the beginning hire bunch of juniors and build first refactor later. Give it couple years and at best case you will be walking into a refactor party worst case you gonna have to nuke whole backend

Personally I cant handle the pressure of live coding so I would never work in a place where during interview they would ask me to solve some technical problem. Same like I dont want people standing behind my back and breathing into my neck while coding. I also don't understand pair programming.

Send me a problem, give me a timeframe and I will do my best. If I have questions I will ask for your input. I want to be judged on my results, not by my performance while doing some arbitrary task.

Thats how day to day work will look like (delivering results) anyways. Otherwise bye.

@horus Yeah you got a point here... Fcking rat race with false sense of urgency

@horus After reading your post one could think that OP is working in some startup which barely stays afloat and survives cheque to cheque on monthly basis and devs are shitting out ground breaking bleeding edge world changing features on monthly basis.

Why so dramatic? Relax. In reality when u see actual monthly output of this kind of companies its fucking hilarious. 6 weeks to add some dumb popup or do minor changes. Ground breaking!

I'm sure his company wouldnt close down if at least 1-2 sprints would be dedicated to refactor long standing issues.

@lambda123 You mean I shouldnt care that much and just do bare minimum bcs I will not loose this job?

@cho-uc so what? Not like u had anything useful to say anyways.

I mean imagine your feature being a simple popup to update a list in the UI in 3-4 scenarios and it takes 4-6 weeks for it to reach production and then on deployment day u realize that 2 other people in the chain fucked up and now you have to take all the pressure for not delivering.

Motherfuckers. This is how motivation and initiative is killed. They have no passion and they dont fucking care. Im starting to feel like my life is becoming this Ofice space movie.

So if the feature will take 4 weeks to implement then its 20 story points? What if it gets blocked and actually takes 8 weeks? We raise it to 40 points? Lmao

Denial is hell of a drug

Run away from that job as soon as u get the first chance mate...

Next time stick a paper on the wall with wifi access QR code. They will never know!

These consultant guys should be sued for damages inflicted

10 percent of brain power? Seems like someone quoted the recent movie Lost City and tried to appear as a smartass :D

I heard this saying that Im trying to live by... In order to stay in a job you need to be earning or learning. It would be ideal if you could do both of these. Currently in my job Im not learning a lot, there is no leadership. Also Im not earning a lot. So I asked my manager for a raise, hopefully with a raise I will also get more interesting things to work on. If he doesnt give it then Im leaving.