@WhatDaCode what company has the budget to be "constantly hiring" even during this recession?

Appreciate the offer though 👍

@iiii I agree it was more on an extreme end. But I hope you read the conclusion of the story. It ended very well.

Otherwise I'd be very embarrassed to narrate that story the way I did there.

@WhatDaCode are you a recruiter? Or another developer who has an opportunity with your employer?

@KennyTheBard would you like something like this? https://devrant.com/rants/1953714/...

@molaram if you want to generalize in a metaphorical sense, sure.

But in reality, it was about "asserting" ownership and control.

@EmberQuill they call freenode whatever they feel like according to their mood. You should go through all the posts by rasengan on the site and look at the signatures on each post.

@molaram there was a major exodus and a 'netsplit'. The former admins created a new network called libera.chat. freenode is now left as a wasteland graveyard which is where this person is claiming "autonomity".

There are more fun stuff if you go deep into the story, but I'm not going to be describing all the details here.

@molaram freenode was close to heart for thousands of people. Because it was volunteer run, people didn't expect it to get this fate.

@molaram if you don't know, you're better off not knowing.

But if you don't have anything better to be doing, go through the link that I posted in the second comment.

Basically, freenode was an internet relay chat ( IRC ) network that was run completely by unpaid volunteers; until someone came and claimed that they "owned" the network. And then things went rogue because of this person trying to strong-arm their way into control.

And the rest is evident on the posts that the person has made on the network's news site.

@Atahensic

* thinks to self * : why are all my sarcastic jokes failing backward on devRant?

@IntrusionCM I've never looked at the man page of journald even though I was aware of its existence. I have dug into the man page of journalctl, on the other hand, to look for which flag did what.

@HolyTeabags I use the terminal for everything except browsing the JavaScript web ( which is 95% )

@sariel I don't think it is about "benefits". This person is trying to impose their version of "freedom" on everyone else.

@HolyTeabags no, not me. I'm a pure green on black person. vim is the only IDE I use. ( Though I have my beginnings with Windows Notepad )

@IntrusionCM TIL that journald had a file system limit. Thanks.

@Nanos it has been the opposite for me. I have gotten more patient with people over the years. I know nothing is urgent that can't wait.

But... Valuing other people's time... That is something I hold real high. I cannot afford to be late by even a second. I always try to get there early. I apologize heavily if I'm delayed by 10 seconds unanticipated ( of course there have been anticipated delays and reschedules, but that doesn't count here ).

@IntrusionCM yes, yes, I know. I understood that much. There are so many redundant systems that can be "cut out".

But systemd will soon grow large enough to encompass most of "system space". There's a reason why they use PID1 for marketing.

I'm not a systemd-hater, but neither am I a fan. I'm wary of the centralization, but I'm also happy about the integration and how everything is seamless especially configuration ( even though it is obscure ).

systemd-homed is a very very neat and smart concept. I wish someone thought of and made it work standalone. But it wouldn't work. That's where the integration with the system matters and truly shines.

@IntrusionCM I haven't built Linux from Scratch™, so I wouldn't know the intricacies and the nuances of it.

But I am aware of the compromise that Debian makes for the sake of "stability".

However, I mentioned it because you said that you almost removed systemd. I know Debian went through a huge refactor to incorporate systemd ( back in 2013-14, I think )

I also agree that `tasksel` / preconfigured set of packages wouldn't be minimal enough for purpose-specific distributions.

@hjk101 you probably meant that you liked the IDE's theme right? Not the code itself?

@kiki where's the "link in the description"?

/me looks frantically for the sponsor link in the...
Oh, wait, no description.

Okay, /me now looks for the description below.

@IntrusionCM if you were "basing off of", then why didn't you base off of Debian which is what Ubuntu is based off of? And then you'd have lot less work maintaining the custom distribution.

And imagining what you described, I'm guessing that your final product is more closer towards Debian?

@HolyTeabags I should stop saying GTFO; but I can't stop myself after reading all your comments.

I hope you come back here when you finally GTFO and reflect on this memory in a nostalgic mood.

@happygimp0 no, that's not the solution. the solution is to eliminate the use -f / --force.

@HolyTeabags I feel you. I was super enthusiastic about optimizing obscure code when I was in your place in my career. And with the same goal - the learning experience of working with something closer to the lower-level.

I was fortunate enough to be given the opportunity to at least try. I wasn't shot down at every suggestion I made.

however, I was not warned of potential troubles either. they laughed when I screwed up. they told me later that they knew that it was going to happen.

but that is better than getting shot down before even trying.

@HolyTeabags But before you leave, you should extract all this 'custom' code and put it online somewhere so that the 'whole open source community can benefit from it'.

I'm sure ruby would be more than willing to include to_time_ago_string, fixxes, make_websafe to the ruby::stdlib so that they wouldn't have to add 'custom code' anymore.

also, isn't there a sanitize_url gem? or do they not know about rubygems either?

@HolyTeabags the risk was my suggestion earlier,

but looking at all that code, I don't think they deserve to be in the game at all. neither do they deserve your time or effort. take your money and GTFO!

@HolyTeabags you can stop now; you lost me when I saw a StackOverflow link in a method extending a base class.

But, to look at the bright side, there was a developer who was considerate enough to admit that they extended a base class by copy-pasting code off of StackOverflow. Class 👌 👏

@N00bPancakes do you have context of what happened at freenode? if you don't, then you won't get this. but you're almost there. you're guessing skills are good though.

I should have put that disclaimer in the rant itself.

but for others coming here : http://lwn.net/Articles/857140/

@HolyTeabags ow, wait, you said extend... extending base classes is still bad, but not as bad as I imagined it; because I imagined some non-cryptographer-developer patching the Hash base class.

I'd rather leave all my dues with the company and console myself that I got to keep my sanity.

( actually, no, I have no savings enough to let my dues go though )

if you want you could even ask that question during your interviews.

there would be definitely be a point in interviews where you get to ask the interviewer questions about the company. if there is someone technical on the interview board, ask them literally this, "do you patch the base classes of the programming language you use?"