https://joelonsoftware.com/2001/10/...

feels like it's relevant here.

@jestdotty I was gonna list being slow as a reason too.

But tbf. I think it may be because they have so many customers. Maybe their on prem offering would be much faster

It's just so clunky to use

It's designed as a product to sell. not a product to be used.

When I used Jira at my first job it was nice and simple.

Creating tickets didn't get in the way. Now I have to spend half a day on my sprint just to create tickets in Jira

@fullstackcircus I mean I don't understand your point.

You are complaining about c# and it's complicated when there's built in methods in JS then you showed an example that isn't any different from c# code (at least from what I understood)

I don't get your point.

Well. everyone has their own measuring sticks.

I like c# and I look up to Jon Skeet. And that's enough for me.

Still interested in the discussion though

@kiki I mean by that logic. Perl is better than JS?

@kiki I think that has more to do with marketing than anything else.

@fullstackcircus I don't get it. that's like declaring

constants in c#? I don't see how this makes JS better?

I would recommend this book if you are interested.

It explains so much about people and the world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Talks about how tribes couldn't be of certain size or they'd fall apart until religion were introduced because fear was a much stronger motivator than rewards.

And then talks about how religion cuts into kinship and how it influences people over time.

I wasn't able to get through everything but it's very interesting to learn about this. (though the book could be a bit more interesting)

what's the JS way of doing this?

@kiki Well that wasn't the intention. But it was the only way I could think about how to frame the problem.

It's mainly that one person is slightly better than the other. (We may have been talking exclusively about their technical skill but I can't remember)

Setting it up to never compare so think is a good idea but it doesn't really address the spirit of my hypothetical scenario.

Like what @Jabb03 pointed out, it's about the fit and how someone would integrate to the team.

And yes I agree that is an excellent example where my approach would be bad.

I've benefited from someone with less than sound skill but really brought the team together. They helped everyone on the team like each other and would challenge each other to grow.

@Fast-Nop Ah gotcha. I see where you are coming from.

FWIW. I do believe diversity helps with building a product. But there are obviously many different variables in play

@Fast-Nop you are missing the other parts of the problem and bringing real world issues into this hypothetical problem.

I'm not talking white vs non-white. I'm talking about someone different from the makeup of your *current* team, regardless of what that might be.

And I'm not talking about choosing an incompetent buffoon. It's two individual that are comparable with one being slightly better *as an individual*

It's unfortunate I used the word hiring. But the main point is about building a team in a hypothetical world

@Fast-Nop Okay I accept this is the definition of racism or sexism. But you can't discount the fact that your cultural upbringing (which also has affect a person differently depending on sex) changes how a person thinks or behaves.

Now with legal and PR problems out of the way. I assume you'd still go with the person that's 10% better in this hypothetical scenario?

I would think if it's people you interact a lot with. they'd understand? otherwise, who cares?

I have some beer from 2020. I don't personally drink beer but I also feel bad about serving them to guests. so.... they are still sitting there

I had interesting jobs. But there's no way what we were building isn't just 80% of what someone else has already built plus a bit of own fluff.

In fact. I had three jobs that were both trying to build the same thing and they all thought they were clever

I have no statistics to back this up, but I believe you can group all the software solutions out there and put them into categories. and things in the same category could probably share at least 50% of the code if we were put them on the stack

yeah. the IT admin from my last job was like that. Definitely had a few of these

@aviophille the web is already filled with generic crap. I'm always wondering why we have jobs since we are always reinventing the wheel somebody else has already reinvented

what if you bypassed wix and directly asked gpt4 for this. wouldn't it generate pretty much the same thing?

I guess wix is still easier since it already takes care of the hosting and everything

So this means. c# devs don't make bugs since they can see sharp? 😱

Can definitely relate.

Have idea 1. Gets distracted, come back with another idea.
Stash and try idea 2

Idea 2 sucked. git reset --hard
git stash pop

Take a detour from idea 1.

Didn't like it too much, decide to go back to original idea 1

Out of habit
git reset --hard

Shit. I lost idea 1

I don't do git stash pop any more lol

and then the bee dies

how could something like that be regulated?

I mean it can be regulated but how can anyone enforce it

what I do on my personal github repo is none of my colleagues business.

it's not annual if we got two of these in two weeks lol

You can't fail if you never stop trying

- yogi bear

@saucyatom oh it does sound something I'd want to try

@shovethisrant ah gotcha. Thanks for the tip.

I think there are more herbal solutions that would do what I want too but with a name like that. It's hard to pass up haha