I guess something seriously wrong with your environment.

- someone who played with dataframes and parquet files of size around 2 GB.

Yes and it is called Bhagavath Geetha, period!

@devios1 yep exactly. Using Mac for all 2 years.
It is great dev environment for work. My productivity is kinda bit a high when using Mac.

@sleepyDevHead
Ha finally.., someone who understands..!
Been there previously..;

Sure, I understand. Thanks @sleepyDevHead

@dev1410 lol

@jase because of most of the rants I see here, are mostly like, can be avoided with a bit of patience.

They are like: client issues, language not doing something, something is broken, boss saying crazy shit,

They all can be avoided, if we people know how to talk to people rather than to a computer.

Coding is nothing great. No one can match a great programmer.

But programming is not about typing, is about understanding why it is needed, how it is going to add value to users. But most ppl here are like..,

Got a task from boss, started coding,
Boss changed requirement,

-> go and rant about it..!

Most of the rants are similar like above. All those things can be avoided, if you understand and communicate with your boss earlier!

I joined very recently, but mostly around 70% of rants are like above mentioned

@irene somebody has to compete you

@DLMousey Yes, I'm very opinionated

@Root also I don't see where I defended bad idea!

@Root
I was born in a family, where we fix if something is broken rather than playing blame game!

@Root, because sudo fixit, won't fix it.

@irene
Did you see me commenting about electron?

Also, if you are concerned about it,
Here we go..;

Did you ever see how many things you need consider to build once and run everywhere apps?

Just as side note, check how go compiles for almost any platform. Did you see how many architecture they need to keep in mind? Do you see the differences between api and api changes within OS, difference and different different OSs.

You know how much effort it takes away by building app for all platforms with just by writing once. You see amount of developer time it saves?

Which one is more costly? Developer time vs CPU time?

PS: I'm a part of the team, where I closely monitor and manage engineering leads. We are 150+ engineers and have around 500+ micro services, that as 3 micro services for each developer. Please join us if you are interested to understand the amount cluttering that happens just with number of code bases.

@irene all things that are obviously flawed;
Sight few?

@Nanoandrew4 which IDE you mean in your rant?

@nanoandrew4
Nope, that's not my opinion. And show me program that takes 1GB of ram for hello world?

Point is, don't compare things. They both have different purposes. They are doing things differently.

If you think of improvement, take that piece of shit and fix it.

@irene when did I? Where did I?

@irene oops, sorry.

Only first line is applicable to you.
No, not at all, is the reply to you.

The entire remaining thing is to hitko and nandrendo. But I just got into that mode and written it out.

Sorry, once again:)

Do you imagine visual studio doing that? At all? Ever? Not a chance;

All developers might not need all those stuff. But understand your craft is really important. There is something called craftsmanship. Look it up!

Just because you don't need all those, you moved away from tool because it is using too much ram.

It is like, when you have hammer, everything looks like a nail. Hammer is not the right tool for you. Hammer still takes the same amount of space. You can't replace hammer with screwdriver.

Screwdriver can't do what hammer can do. You can't ask hammer, why can't you be like screw driver and still do your job!

Please understand, all those developers who are keeping effort are not fools. They are not building shit tools.

If you really think they are, build the right one and show it to world. Like Linux, as he presented Git.

@irene no, not at all.

The point is, we are talking with whatever the information we have. We are not looking at the other side of the story.

For example: Let's consider jet brains IDE. You know how this syntax correction, auto suggestion works..?
It runs entire fucking AST underneath. You see how cool and hard it is?

Did you guys ever work with some super experienced senior engineer? As in paired with one while working? Ever observed the amount of refraction that you can do with IntellJ?

No body, would ever possibly do that refactoring without IntellJ. It has super power, pull member up, live templates, refactoring names, moving methods up and down, make them private, moving them to whole different class.., a lot and a lot..!

Take a properly working build, and move stuff in and out, here and there.., and trust me you would need to touch things that depends on class X, because IntellJ will do that automatically for you. And build will pass. How many IDEs will do that?

@nanoandrew4 You are looking at things on high-level bro. Please dig deep into the stack and understand why it has to be that way.

There are bunch of reasons, like should not block main thread, shouldn't block fetcher, should execute them parallel.

Its a rabbit hole, don't just make comments without understanding..

IMHO, you will change your perception once you get idea on how ui component works. Try this:

Divide screen into 3 components,
On far ends of the screen, rotate images every 2, 3 seconds respectively.
In the middle screen, just ask user for input, and load that URL, and render result.

See how complicated it is. See how much memory it takes.

Again we both are talking without even knowing what code in shuttle used to do!

@nanoandrew4
There is always cost attached to it dear. You can always rewrite entire net/http in c. But will that help you to iterate fast?

Dont fall into this fallacy dear.

I see you made a statement that, we went to moon with 4kb of ram, 32kb of storage. But you are looking at only side of a coin.

Do you know what that code which is running on 4kb of ram is doing? Is that a microchip, or the heavy IBM wireframe?

As far I gathered information from multiple sources, it was simple sensors sending data, and it is used to display sort of red-green stuff.

What are we doing now-a-days? Slack notification is much more complex than the system in space shuttle.

Take a look at this:

Was wondering, how many people actually understand the rant :think:

@ceee lol, I guess I got a wrong pointer

@ceee hehehe :-p
Is it the other way around, mount and fsck ? 🙈🤔

@sbiewald thanks wald

@Floydian thank you dian

@rookiemaverick
Its building :-p