Java is literally one of the simplest programming language to understand. It's also the reason why it's a standard for enterprises.

C# telling java it sucks? How ironic

If you're genuinely trying to get your domain un-blacklisted, or at least to significantly lower the chance of this happening again, it might be a good idea to read up on DMARC, SPF and DKIM.

YYYY-MM-DD because it's sorted alphabetically by default (and because ISO 8601)

@rootshell @hubiruchi WAIT DOES THAT MEAN THAT FULL-STACK INCLUDES FULL STACK? (using caps to stay in context with post)

@seraphimsystems "C# is being used more and more" damnit are you doing it on purpose :@

@seraphimsystems I think you missed the joke

@AlexDeLarge a small text could have explained it all, but a small text isn't as effective as a long rant to me

@nikmanG @Null-Device @linuxxx @Floydian @FrodoSwaggins

Thanks for clearing it up. I had assumed that while not all of Facebook users knew, at least half would be aware that it was a given their information would be sold and used, and that they didn't care.

What was annoying to me was the fact that this fact, which I had thought many were aware of already, blew up with such intensity now rather than years ago.

However, since I severely overestimated how much people knew about it, it now makes sense that the medias would blow it up of proportion.

Thank you everyone for your explanation, we could make a great book with this <3

@nikmanG I'm just fooling around about the peasant thing.

@nikmanG had to Google layman, and I see your point. We as developers know it, but mere peasants had no idea up until now.

Makes sense

@Floydian but as I mentionned earlier, I don't approve of Facebook either, don't misunderstand me!

I was mainly ranting about how the medias have blown this out of proportion NOW when this whole thing is NOT NEW.

Facebook has been doing this for a long time, and this is, to me, obvious! So why are they blowing this out of proportion now when this is old news?

Even without access to chat logs, any programmers could easily make a crawler that would process a profile on Facebook based on what pages he likes, his friends, his past posts on his timeline, etc.

And this has been the case for a long time!

@Floydian I appreciate you taking the time to explain what you meant.

While I agree with most of what you've said, I still disagree with the idea that other humans are reading you chat logs.

Given the amount of users and the amount of millions of messages being sent every hour on Facebook, it seems nearly impossible for Facebook employees to be manually reading them all.

That leaves us with the most obvious, plausible replacement for humans: machines.

I don't think Facebook would be immoral enough to directly sell chat logs, however, it seems much more likely that Facebook would process the chat logs of a user and extract data from it, which would most likely include sports, politic, locations, (and the list goes on and on).

While all the information they gather on one individual is scary, I don't believe that they have a system so advanced that they can make cross-references between chat logs from two different persons(ex. Your friend talking about what you did to someone else)

@Null-Device there's probably a clause in the terms and agreements that nobody read when they sign up that gives Facebook the right to own your soul.

@Floydian so you think it's funny that I think collecting data on customer is basically the most important aspect of marketing, and Facebook having about 2.2 billion potential (pretty sure a lot of those are inactive) customers would eventually have ended up in them selling customer information sooner or later.

Explain yourself instead of just posting a pointless, demeaning comment.

@Null-Device i'm not blaming Google or Amazon, I'm using them as example. I can't imagine what something as big as Google woud look like with its pants down..

@linuxxx theres an app to visualize it I think it's called lightbeam.

@everyone keep in mind I'm just ranting, I don't approve of what Facebook does either, but when I signed up for facebook, I expected some of my info to be sold.

Users like pages so they get information about those pages for the sake of convenience.

If it's convenient for users, it's even more convenient for the sake marketing.

Heck, if you like cookies, trust me, Amazon will back you up with plenty of cookie jars.

I feel you.
I have an alias for rm that moves the files to /trash and I set up a cronjob that clears the trash every 7 days.

You should commit more often.. Much more often xD

@CurseMeSlowly not to mention 250MB is peanuts anyways.

@irene I guess it's true NodeJS is making a mess enough as it is

@irene pfft, sloppy programmers, not sloppy programming languages. Not to mention JS isn't going anywhere anytime soon

@irene well you know, assuming Electron gains popularity, I'm pretty sure it would also end up being optimized. There's probably not enough users yet for such a large scale optimization to take place

@irene all discord processes added together takes less than 300MB on my end. Same with Slack.

Regardless, I'd take 4GB over flash any day

@Cheeseypi @Daveloper I agree, I only briefly tried it out and like the concept. I'm aware that packaging chromium is a little dumb, but the concept of using js/html/css on a desktop application definitely makes creating smooth desktop applications easier.

I understand the pain. I bought a VPN for my phone so I can at least have freedom on my phone at work.

Did you know Docker was made in Go?

Pft, I don't even think € is an ASCII character

@exploreTheC I don't mind that people buy Apple products; even I agree that the iPhone, despite its hefty price tag, is very user friendly.

I'm just ranting.

@exploreTheC
I didn't mention windows once.
But since you brought it up, I'd pick Windows anytime over Mac OS.

Most mac users on devrantcare okay, as many of the developers are, I'm more annoyed by "those" people

@nanl That's probably the reason why Macs make me so angry tbh