*a lot more powerful than windows

If only all software was as polite with their trial as WinRAR 😂

Just get Idea Vim, if you want vim controls for intellij, it will give you all the features of the IDE but the editing power of Vim. Of course it won't be as light weight as Vim.

@sm001 people like to meme over what languages suck and which ones are better, usually Javascript isn't highly regarded due to its dependcies on different frameworks and JS developers jumping frameworks.

JS is fine as a beginner language even though it might have some funky errors, it's a language you'll have to know to some degree if you want to do web development. I recommend also learning python or an object oriented language like Java and C#. There will always be devs telling you what language is the best and worst but don't hold it in too high regard.

@FATALITY could be worse, could be PHP.

@illusion466 hmm yeah that is true, yeah I have used tools like that before in Intellij.

Thanks for the look, really helpful and insightful :)

@Sarcaxxo hey that looks great! I'll for sure take that into consideration thanks :)

@illusion466 that's true, but then introducing new developers to a codebase that's +10000 lines of code with little to no comments or documentation means you'll have a developer that will have a harder time doing their job. I understand the perspective, and I think it's probably because I'm an intern but I've really tried to push documentation in my current work place.

But I can see that you probably would rather use resource on delivering the product rather than documenting it.

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@-vim- I did actually suggest using a Linux server instead of windows 7 enterprise server which they use, but there is multiple developers that use the server that has no experience with Linux. So I'll have to make a compromise on that front and using chocolaty seems to be that middle ground.

If I was head of IT I would use rhel in a blink of an eye, I havet tried Centos yet but I've heard good things about it.

@FATALITY just a terminal running screenfetch

@PhilWerman I think it's fair if you don't like Linux as a main os, it's all preferences in the end, but as a developer knowing a little Linux helps you a long way in the IT world.

@irene that's a fair point, but if anything open source is equally just a principle, I use a lot of open source software, and some I look into and modify for my own needs, most I don't. You might not be safe, but you have no idea at all if you are safe if you use proprietary software, atleast with open source other devs and enthusiastis have the chance to spot errors and loop holes.

Visiting your parents must be torture

I use Arch btw

@irene well atleast you get to look under the hood, and understand how it works, instead of having proprietary software, which might use you more than it helps you.

Atleast if you have the Stallman mindset that's usually how it is. Program for the user to use, or Program that uses the user.

Well atleast you are trying to better yourself, like joining sites where programmers discuss code.

I've had this mentality myself, but think about it this way; it's better to be terrible but always wanting to learn more, than belive you're great and choose to never learn anything.

I've met senior Java devs who believe they were hot shots because they have coded Java since it was released, the problem was they stopped learning, and you could really tell by their code that they weren't code masters despite being senior devs.

TL;DR: You are probably never gonna be a "great programmer" because there is always more to learn

@stisch this is a fact, Linux sucks if you want an out of the box experience, and want to use an OS like the one you've used since 1998. Windows sucks if you don't want bloated OS with restrictive control (are you sure you want to run as admin?), Mac sucks if you don't want to buy into the apple echo system.

I just choose Linux because even thou there might be some down sides, for me personally there are more downsides with Windows or MacOS