@red-knot Yes I've used it extensively, it feels like a patchy workaround for something that doesn't fundamentally work in the first place

@lorentz It is like a game of whack a mole yes, but so is React.js

@NoToJavaScript I do the cleaning and cooking quite often but this was my first time taking a dump. My headphones don’t have a physical mute button so I had no safety net. Pretty scary

@platypus Not getting triggered is not really possible while debuggin JS

@gingrnut Then this is a problem

@magicMirror I am finding the whole node_modules thing to use insane amounts of CPU when it's Dockerized, even more than usual. And the hot reloading is buggy and it sucks

@gingrnut You have less than 5 years experience right?

@gingrnut "No one will die if there is a bug" - Your quality standards are just sad

Tell them you only work with FORTRAN

Send repo I am ready to make PR

Naver Whale is a real browser

Just stop complaining and write the tests

@NoDevNoMore Yeah, as I said *adequate* personal skills is required. But the main criteria and the main requirement should be excellent technical skills.

@NoDevNoMore A lead developer role is not about talking. It's about making the important technical decisions and making the final call when your team members disagree about a technical choice.

It's about monitoring code reviews, deciding on which coding principles to follow and to make sure that good developers are rewarded, using nuanced and deep technical judgement

It's about making sure technical debt is avoided or otherwise handled appropriately, and making sure that nobody is committing bad quality code.

Do you want me to keep on explaining? Is this honestly news to you?

You know the problem is that most people don't take code reviews seriously, and companies punish good developers like us for being attentive and pedantic, instead of rewarding us

@Voxera

If you were developing for IE3, I think that clearly this has lowered your standard of what is acceptable level of bullshit

Why is everyone taking this to the extreme?

Let me explain

Dev A: Excellent tech skills, adequate personal skills
Dev B: Excellent personal skills, adequate tech skills

Dev A should 100% be chosen as the leader. Because this is a software department, not a fucking HR department

I have seen too many people being promoted who can't code properly, and just using their big words and talking to veil their inability to understand what's going on in the tech stack

@Voxera I disagree. If you are a manager without programming skills, you might be a really good manager - But you don't belong in a software company, I'm sorry.

I won't go in to the 1 million reasons I have for this, but as an example, look at the CEO of just about every software giant. Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Larry & Sergey, Mark Zuckerberg. They were all developers. And not just developers, but very, very prolific and active hands-on developers.

It's not a coincidence. It just isn't

@Tonnoman0909 Hahahah yeah and they all smoke meth too.

@heyheni In this case it would be classified as a serious personal issue so no, they would not be a good leader.

What I am saying is that I much prefer someone with ADEQUATE personal skills, and very strong technical skills, over someone who's a fucking showoff extrovert, but writes code like a first year student.

Shame.. I guess the lesser people work in lesser careers

Developers are superior and should be more respected in general

Look at all the giants - Microsoft, Facebook, Google, PayPal - All had CEO's that were developers through and through

I would just like to say I agree... But if you are looking for a job abroad with visa sponsor, then it's fine to do this on a job board for the foreign country since it's much harder to find a job this way

@theabbie I am a web developer. I've been able to focus more on other languages by being a backend dev. But now even this is under threat because of Node.js. I can't believe people are okay with JS being used on the backend. The idea of it is laughable. My disappointment in people is so intense, I'd put it up there with Trump being elected

@Cyanide Oh gosh lol.. I seriously forgot about that so yes coincidence :D

@petergriffin Are you saying there is "good" in JS language?

@theabbie I honestly am not surprised about it. Because the language is so useless, even the well-known frameworks made by Facebook and Google suck, so I'm not surprised some people try different things

Why do people do this? Why would you not use a css framework?

@ostream It grew organically from your arse hole

@homo-lorens Because they were idiots

Nice. What age are you now? I am 28 and also want to leave my city, Cape Town