@atheist Indeed. We wouldn't want to bring Infowars into disrepute.

@atheist AFAIK we have regulators like IPSO and Ofcom, which are basically powerless to actually *stop* any of the bullshit, but can compel any news or press outlet to retract and correct (even if it's 4px font on page 300), and fine them rather paltry sums if they don't behave. It's not much, but it's honest.

The places where these people "do their own research" have no such oversight, but they probably see "the freedom to bullshit idiots like us all day long" as some kind of triumph over the deep state or whatever.

@atheist bloody mainstream outlets, with their legal obligation to report accurately. The facts can really get in the way of a good yarn.

@jestdotty nothing irrational about it, we all know that "doing your own research" means googling your own opinion until you find enough people who agree with it, the notion of primary and secondary sources doesn't really get any more advanced than "my mate down the pub who knows for def" or "my mate down the pub's mate, who also knows for def", but sure, I'm a low-IQ troll, like everyone who disagrees with you on the internet probably is.

I imagine this is what being a Vibe Coder feels like.

@jestdotty your PM is right, everyone who has ever implored anyone to "do your own research" is a bit of a tool, at best.

@YourMom I'm not sure that any of those will pass master for a dissertation source, and they're all basically mainstream too, but either way.

I'm British, if that's worth anything, I can tell you that you're being fed a different load of shit to the "mainstream" line. We don't live in some Orwellian police state where you get a life sentence just for saying you're English, so long as you're not a dick and/or causing trouble to bystanders, you can basically do what you like.

@atheist it's mad being told what your own country is actually like from people who don't live in it, eh? Here I was, casually cutting a sarnie in two with a bread knife, blissfully unaware that this could land me with a million-year prison sentence.

@YourMom ah, some isolated misunderstanding in Wales, from that you've decided that we get arrested for having gardening tools as a matter of mandate. Lol.

Mind if I ask where you do your own research?

@AlgoRythm ...in which case I'll ask again: what are you referring to?

@AlgoRythm I've never been asked to hand anything in to the authorities. What are you referring to?

@atheist it's quite scary when you see the extent of it. Every day YT seems to recommend to me another "UK News" channel, all of it is AI-slop and it's always pushing a Reform-approved narrative, my old man would think it's legit.

@YourMom spend less time on the internet mate, the UK is nothing like the professional victims of the right want to project it as being, and it's quite tiring having to read it.

We just bang up people who try to burn down occupied hotels, hardly the USSR.

Typescript - you will turn off the linter and regret using me within two days of deciding your basic web page really needs a type-safe language.

@devJs if you say so, mate.

@kiki been a while, hope you're good.

Took what personally?

@devJs I didn't update it, I binned it and banned it. Writing inline CSS is "how to break a design pattern 101" even if it's just a few instances, encouraging people to build an entire site like this is fucking madness.

I just had to jump into a tailwind project because one of our engineers straight up had enough of trying to fix it and quit - and having done so, I no longer blame him for leaving us in the lurch.

I can see how it'd be quick and fun to prototype with, but nobody should ship a site with this shit in it unless they plan to be the only person maintaining it. I generally let our devs choose their own tools, stack etc, but now we have one rule:

No tailwind, ever.

I had food poisoning the other day and the sheer amount of puke I summoned to redecorate my bathroom made me think something similar, we're all ambulatory septic tanks, full of disgusting bio-waste, just waiting to explode.

@TheBeardedOne oh God. My heart goes out to you.

Dunno what Wicket is but with such a stupid and instantly-hateable name I’m guessing it’s a JS framework

Web3 grifters are getting ever more desperate for a “use case” these days

Honestly I use a couple of AI tools so I’m probably a total hypocrite but I’m starting to feel a bit depressed about all of this. Before long we’re going to find that we automated everything fun and creative and only have the jobs the robots are *supposed* to be doing left for us.

I don't resent the tech, it's amazing and I already use it all the time - what I resent is that the grifters who last week posed as Web3/Metaverse consultants are now directly undermining professionals of all stripes with this, because they want to pay less for our services.

"i MaDe ThIs In TeN mInUtEs WiTh ChAt GpT a FrEeLaNcEr QuOtEd Me A wEeK" - ok then, go and deploy that "serverless function" it just wrote you to a live env. What's that, you don't trust yourself to do it? You don't know what a live env even is?

No, it's not the tech, it's the parasitic industry that sprung up around it, as happens with all tech.

@hjk101 all languages are great, all languages are shit. I don't really mind any off the bat, the problems arise when someone has written anything in any of them. JS and PHP encourage different types of technical debt, but both are fine provided nobody writes anything in them.

@daniel-wu I figured it'd bundle chromium (and I guess node makes sense) but damn, that's still a lot bigger than I'd expect it to be, and the incremental thing is insane. I wonder if this is just the way now, or we'll ever look back on this era as the age of bloat. I never fail to feel exasperated as another npm i eats up half a gig of my HD with mostly unused shit.

@thebiochemic right. If you're inheriting a codebase, it's likely going to be a flavour of shit.

@daniel-wu not used electron beyond tinkering years ago, is that the project folder size or the actual executable?

There never seemed like a grand plan for it, at the time I recall Facebook getting lots of really, really bad press, even by their standards. Every week there was another whistleblower, another scandal, from depressed teens to fake news to genocide (https://tinyurl.com/474dx9bb), then all of a sudden this big announcement of...not much, really. A sinister video of Zuck sounding like an eight year old describing the computer game they're going to make, which will do literally everything imaginable, with nothing much to back it up.

Credit to him though, if credit is the word: it did get the fifth-wheels of tech (who have mostly since updated their LinkedIn titles to 'AI expert') talking a lot of crap about the Metaverse, and a lot less sense about how awful his company were.

I could be wrong, but the whole thing seemed like a dead cat to me. 2021 had this *and* NFTs, it truly was the year of the Tech Grifter.

@fckIE Figure it's from this:

https://thestreet.com/technology/...