@jesustricks Making you mad isn't a fallacy and I'm not going to rephrase it. Get an adult to explain it to you.

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> yeah, but i went as far as just posting my opinion in a internet forum, i didn't interrupt a show or anything.

Never said otherwise. I posted my own conflicting opinion on an internet forum and no shows were disrupted anywhere in the world. Guess we are all good out here.

> another stupid comment, you're just a fountain of these. by saying nobody gives a fuck then that means you can apparently speak for everyone.

Are you suggesting there's a significant contingent of people somewhere whose opinions about whether a specific comedian can smile are hinging on whether you personally think they are funny?

@jesustricks You said it was okay to smile if they were actually funny.

Nobody gives a fuck about your opinion of who is funny and who isn't, dude.

Also as I've already stated, the ideal of a meritocracy is impossible to achieve. Everyone sees their own way of doing things as the best way to achieve a meritocracy, and the fact that you refer to one way of doing things as meritocracy and not another way is just reflective of your own bias and not of anything real.

@jesustricks I think it's funny that you regularly come on here and write rambling, ignorant 800-word essays and then complain about other people wasting your time by leaving brief replies.

@pk76 That works too. I never was enough of a salesperson to make the self-employed thing work for me and I admire those who have that mix of sales and technical ability. It is honestly worth a lot more than a crap degree.

@pk76 Ugh I know, especially for the major-est tech hubs. SV is a shitshow. Minimum wage people can't even afford to live inside the city at all and junior developers are living crammed up like sardines in shitty apartments. I saw a docu lately about kids in SV living in what were effectively programmer bunkhouses. Free wifi and you get your own TV in your bunk, but no real privacy and it costs as much as a full studio apartment in any sane city. By tech hub I mean something a little less hub-y but still with a tech community. Somewhere you can move to and survive while you look for that dev job, but where there are actually tech meetups you can go to and meet people who are employed doing work, who would be interested in hiring you if you developed skills in areas that match what they need. I live in Canada and there are at least a few cities in each province that have this.

Also I'm not sure what the first rant of yours is that I've disrupted but I just realized you're the dude who thinks it's manipulative for comedians to smile, which relieves me of a lot of potential asshole-guilt. I'm sure rant #1 was me telling you to toss babies down a garbage chute or something but YTA still on the comedian thing. 😂

@jesustricks Which company have you worked for which practices a meritocracy?

@pk76 The advice I gave was not intended to be an attack on you or the work you've done so far. It was intended to give you some tips on how to hack the hiring system. Things from the hiring side don't look the same as things from the being-hired side. A lot of people look at job ads and take feedback from job interviews as if they were absolute rules handed down from god and I can tell you with certainty, for most companies THEY ARE NOT. For some companies they are, and if you were looking to hire on at one specific company then your arguments about me not knowing them personally would make sense. But if you can't find ANY programming job then understanding how the industry works in general would be helpful to you, if you chose to listen. The people writing jobs ads and running interviews are just people. They can make mistakes and they can make exceptions. They write bad job ads and run bad interviews and you can work around both issues if you know how.

@K-ASS Usually they do ask, collecting the fields they intend to use and then using those fields instead of tossing out a random-ass guess. You wouldn't find it weird if someone randomly addressed a letter to you as "Reverend Kiss-Ass"? (I'm assuming that's what the K stands for :P)

@pk76 Okay, be salty and accept failure if you choose. The fact still remains that I've worked with many successful developers who have no degree, and I've also participated in many hiring committees where most of the people hiring have no real clue what they want and are derping around into walls and hiring based on feelings. You not having a degree may be part of the reason and the most obvious reason, which is why that's what they told you. That doesn't remove the fact that other people without degrees are getting hired, often at the same companies that reject people with that same reason.

Please tell me this is uglified/minified? Or poorly de-uglified?

He spent his lifetime in hell, so it's only fair.

@pk76 Ehhh. That's the reason they think they rejected you. I would bet the actual reason they rejected you is because they thought you were too much of a risk. "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" and degrees are an easy way for a hiring manager to prove they "bought IBM" wrt their hires, but not the only way. Jobs, Zuckerberg and Gates were all dropouts, but if they'd applied to the jobs you've been applying to they'd be hired in a heartbeat, because they were "IBM" for a different reason. If you really can't get a degree (even in another country?) you need to find another way to make yourself seem like a safe hire, or find a way to get in the good graces of some hiring managers willing to take a risk on you. Being a significant contributor to a significant open source project would be a way to do #1 and moving to a tech hub and going to meetups to "network" might be a way to do #2. There are lots of working devs out there without degrees and the market is as good as it gets rn.

Secondly, when you're talking about promotions, merit in your previous position (whether true or perceived), doesn't equate merit the new position. The skills required for a position in N-1 tier and the skills required for N tier of an org chart are often very different. There are a lot of people who make great programmers and are absolute dogshit at being managers or even technical leads.

@jesustricks "usually people get promoted because they do well"

I'm going to take a big ol' citation needed on that one bud. At best you can say that people get promoted because there's a general perception that they've done well. Unfortunately that's not the same thing as actually doing well in your job. In development specifically, the guy who writes shit code and then spends a lot of time putting out fires is often seen as a bigger go-getter than the person who writes decent code more slowly. The first guy puts out features really quickly, and is always fixing problems (saving people from emergency problems), while the second person just slowly but consistently releases stuff that never breaks. There was actually a great discussion on HN about this just today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item/...

Onboarding is the entire process of taking a new employee and bringing up to their potential as an employee of normal status and productivity, so it includes some IT setup, filing of forms, and meeting people but also a lot of time learning the codebase. You could also say you're "getting up to speed" with the code. "Familiarizing" also works.

Depressed you is not the you that should be trying to start your own business. Been there, done that, failed to get the postcard. Currently pretty far in on the interview process for a new job. They put on a good show about not being a total hellhole to work for but we'll see; my current place said the same thing and it was all BS sooo. Either way I'm ready to trade in my current flavor of dogshit for a new flavor of dogshit. If nothing else it'll add some variety to my life lool.

Don't you get your fill of being forced to fake-smile at work?

You don't need a degree to get a programming job, especially in this market. I just checked the top 5 postings on my go-to job site and only one of the five even mentions a degree. Most job postings that do list a degree will say "degree or equivalent experience", or are listing wishlist items and would be happy to hire someone with no degree if they were otherwise a good fit.

why are you fixing bugs on weekends

Working for a toxic slave driver manager isn't going to make you feel less alienated no matter how long you work for them unfortunately. ^^;;

Can I skip most of the cruft here and just point out that there is no such thing as a meritocracy? Like "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps", the term "meritocracy" was invented as a sardonic joke at the expense of people who thought something like that was realistic or possible. It was coined by a sociologist named Michael Young in a satirical essay about a fictional dystopia.

@sboesch Software gore is definitely on topic. Nothing to do with politics.

@Codex404 The workload typically is chosen by managers. It's a little psychotic that you think the state of our industry is amusing, but okay.

@sboesch So why not leave off that line completely? Emails don't need to have a "Dear mr/mrs" bit.

Also why are you allowed to store name but not gender, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

@Codex404 Managers run the meetings, and obviously developers can't self-organize or any of that unless management lets it happen, which they usually don't. I'm tired of hearing "that's not really agile tho" every time someone brings up how they're being screwed over by their workplace's "agile" practices. Most workplaces that do "agile" and "scrum" are just looking for ways to keep their workers on a perpetual hamster wheel.

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@saucyatom I don't think you sound high on your horse at all. Gyms have a terrible reputation. The BBB says they get 6k complaints a year about gyms, making it one of the most complained-about industries, largely because of these cancellation issues: https://abc15.com/news/national/...

I think it's ridiculous that gyms do annual memberships to begin with. Pretty sure the majority of their profit comes from people signing up on Jan 1 and then never showing up past February. Where I come from, you pay for a service and then when you stop wanting to use the service, you stop having to pay for it. Sounds complicated but it works for us!

The fact that they're being gross about your health condition is also super not okay.

@Codex404 ok so this is a No True Scotsman then? I've never, ever worked for a company where it was done as you're describing. Maybe there are one or two companies in the world actually "doing Scrum". How is that helpful info? The 99% of companies that implement Franken-Scrum still call their process Scrum. If you don't like that managers call their crappy processes Scrum, go talk to the managers, not the people being subjected to them.

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