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linuxxx
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To all dutch people on here, the new surveillance law I ranted about a month or something ago has passed if my source is correct.

Passed as in, the government has voted in favor.

Time to start encrypting/vpn'ing/torring and securing your computers!

Feel free to use this rant's comment section as Q/A and tips section for this subject as well :)

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  • 4
    @jifuna @Jilano and anyone else who is interested in this!
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    Worth it using Dnscrypt? (beside vpn)
    @linuxxx I asked you some time ago which country you recommend for vpn (always used NL but that's gone now) - maybe Romania?
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    @ThoughtfulDev I'd say either some country with no laws on loggin (like the Sychelles (however the fuck one spells that), Romania possibly, Panama I thought and you've gotta do a little research on that one :))
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    @ThoughtfulDev DNSCrypt for sure! It's worth using any and every tiny tool that adds a little more security/privacy :)
  • 1
    @linuxxx thanks :) those Panama Vps are a little too expensive for my taste 😂
  • 1
    @ThoughtfulDev I'd take a shared server VPN provider. With loads of users it's harder to pinpoint specifc users :)
  • 0
    I personally use trust.zone
    it's small, compact, cheap, and really secure.
  • 2
    @iSwimInTheC Thanks for the suggestion! I think someone else already suggested it but forgot about it so thanks! Their downloads section disappoints me though... 'Select Trus.Zone VPN manager for your OS'. Windows is the only OS listed there. Well fuck that.
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    @runfrodorun The only good part about this voting is that a few politicians were so fucking criticizing about this law and asking very specific questions that the ministers who want to get this law through got very nervous and tried to push it through as fast as possible!
  • 1
    @linuxxx Oh really? I didn't even notice that. I'm sorry
  • 1
    @iSwimInTheC That's alright haha! They probably provide OpenVPN files which is the only thing I use anyways :)
  • 0
    So should I stop downloading torrents now? It was never a problem before.. or is the law about something completely different?
  • 1
    @PRein It's a general mass surveillance law but they're going to start crackdowns on torrenters soon as well anyways I thought so I'd HIGHLY recommend a VPN!
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    Thx for the mention. I hope the piratenpartij get enough votes with there referendum. When I have enough income that's probably next month(switching work) I'm planning to get a VPN at trust.zone. I was the one who suggested it :)
  • 1
    @Jifuna Most welcome man! Yeah me too and fair enough, let me know how it works out!
  • 1
    @JoshBent Uhm just look at the rant really Oo
  • 0
    @linuxxx read too quick 😅
  • 0
    @JoshBent That's alright haha xD
  • 0
    frikin governments, man
  • 2
    Looking into the current vpn comparison, it seems like the best vpn is BlackVPN. [just 5€ per month starting price without: UK+US Servers] (and "BolehVPN" but that one doesn't look like anything serious to me when visiting their site, nor have I ever heard anything about it)

    https://thatoneprivacysite.net/vpn-...

    I used following filter:

    Eyes: No
    Enemy: No
    Logs traffic: No
    Logs Timestamps: No
    Logs Bandwidth: No
    Logs IP Address: No

    Trust.zone gets filtered because of "Logs Bandwidth", besides that is similar to BlackVPN.
  • 1
    @JoshBent Thanks so much for that! No, for real, I really appreciate it!
  • 4
    @ThatDude As for torrenting germany is about one of your worst options right now!
  • 1
    Snap! We have Snooper's Charter. Most politicians are clueless when it comes to online security and privacy.
  • 0
    @Jilano YAY another subscriber? 😊
  • 1
    @linuxxx You're welcome, surprised for that much appreciation though, thought you'd knew this site :)
  • 1
    I have a VPN server in the Netherlands using Digital Ocean. I fucked?
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    @Marv Nope, it seems to have passed the entire final voting a day or something ago?
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    @Marv Let me do some more research tonight!
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    In case that you are: "Hey send me that stuff encrypted please"
    And someone is like "Yeah, well, encryption is too much work dude!"

    Tell them "THEN SEND IT UNENCRYPTED AND I DESTEOY YOUR LIFE WITH IT IN SECONDS!"

    After that, send a Hawkpost link ;)

    /Hawkpost is a in-browser-encryption with PGP to your inbox/
  • 1
    @hash-table PIA is setup in the US, they did have officially documented tries of officials trying to get any information and failing, but its still a thing to consider and def. a flag to look out for.
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    @hash-table They also have their openvpn files downloadable, so no need to actually use any package outside openvpn itself - used them bit over 7 months ago, but I don't think that changed?
  • 1
    @JoshBent yep still downloadable
    @hash-table the aur package just downloads Openvpn and the configs and puts them in etc/Openvpn/Pia.. Which I did manually

    For a simple Openvpn GUI if you need one :Qopenvpn
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    @linuxxx How exactly are they going to conduct the surveillance?

    Also, I'm using NordVPN, and I'm quite satisfied. Easy to use, and has support for every major Linux distribution as well (AFAIK)
  • 0
    @aaxa Might want to read some stuff at https://sleep.net (i thought?)
  • 0
    @linuxxx That site you linked isn't loading, its timing out.
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    @JoshBent Just checked the URL, my bad! https://sleepwet.nl
  • 1
    For all the ones torrenting out there, Switzerland has pretty relaxed laws as long as you "just" download and use it privately. However note, that we have a mass surveilance law as of 1th of september this year.
  • 0
    @Wack France still seems to give 0 fucks about anyones torrenting, the hosters even offer full one-click seedbox images.
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