Is it just me, or are servlets and jstl awesome as fuck!

Meh.

I think it's just you

Seriously it's just you, java for Web development is fucked up

But, but why? What's wrong with it? A full fledged powerful language at your disposal for everything you can of think of plus some more. @theScientist @amateur64 @eskizo @fornplake

@kai18 I don't know the feeling I had it is just that no matter how good you structure your Web application it will be a gigantic monolithic anyway. I find it hard about thinking microservices with that. But well, I could be wrong.

@kai18 servlets and jsp are awesome and it is a good way to get into web. But the world has moved on from the whole trend towards using frameworks like springs, spark, spring boot etc... If u r a beginner it's a good place to start but don't stick to it for too long

@eskizo @amateur64 Why a monolith? You have MVC in it. And if you take any other web development environment, what else does anybody use? MVC frameworks in PHP, MVC in Java, Ruby on rails, what's the difference!? Performance might be an issue, but let's face it, not really! If done properly, Java performs decent enough, not as fast as PHP, but the design and structure convinience overcomes that. You can couple angular, JQuery and what have you with it! PHP seems like a nightmare when it comes to design, nodejs doesn't have multithreading, so, what exactly is it that makes you not prefer java for web?

@thevariableman Really? How different are Android SDK and Spring? Aren't they using the she design patterns and techniques? Both are using XML for configuration along with a factory design pattern or something like an observer. Does that stop your from developing Android apps on Android SDK?