I was scared shitless while installing the windows creator, that it might shit on my grub like the anniversary update did! I had to chroot, reinstall bootloader, and run mkinitcpio to rebuild boot and kernel images. But thankfully everything went on smoothly this time!

Smoothly... lol

Windows, causing anxiety attacks since forever.

@dontPanic, well you don't panic. 😂

Well I have a small usb stick pre installed with grub :P
I update it every time but the shell comes in handy for any other system too

@dontPanic Well, "smoothly" by windows standards... 😅

@Kimmax It would work flawlessly if the boot and efi partitions were intact, but if something's deleting your kernel image from them, you've no option other than to rebuild the images and reinstall bootloader! Some balls windows got, thinking they fucking own my machine, fucking with my boot and efi! Fucking bullshit!

Don't you guys use EFI? It's easy, just boot using the linux boot manager and then do an 'sudo update-grub' so windows appears on the list and voilà!

@kai18 of course it won't help you repairing the bootloader.
I treat the stick like a copy of my bootloader, efi and kernel included (or both in one in case of debian) so I can still boot the system if windows overwrote the one on the hd.
For systems that aren't mine it helps if only the mbr is damaged

@ffiebigc Debian has an inbuilt efi stub, so you can add the kernel as efi image itself to your bios, absolutely no extra bootloader required :3
Don't know about other distros, but I'm sure most support this somehow

@Kimmax you mean, no grub ? ...if yes, why ? I mean even windows has a "grub" and it's easier to have the pc boot into something that gives you a choice.

@ffiebigc yes, you can still chainload the windows bootloader from the efi stub with some minimal configuration. Runs much faster than grub for me