»The European Commission has revealed it is considering a ban on the use of facial recognition in public areas for up to five years.

Regulators want time to work out how to prevent the technology being abused.«

https://bbc.com/news/...

Finally something good

I hate when polititians act as the good guys when they're actually the worst of the bad guys.

@c3r38r170 hm. I just hate the ones that are the bad guys. Not that I trust the rest of course :-p

Just because it’s illegal, does not mean, they are not doing it.

So how they will prevent it exactly?
You can simply record in EU put it to cloud, recognize faces and build models outside of EU.
More and more regulations are just killing small businesses and promoting companies from outside of EU.

Internet is not local when politicians will accept and understand that there are no borders and you can’t ban something without borders maybe they start doing good things.

Meanwhile most vpn companies are based in south america and I believe same will happen with facial recognition companies period.

just don't fucking mention this "no borders" stuff to politicians, because they are stupid enough to create some and then ban things

@vane It would still be illegal as EU laws would still apply. Additionally there are (for both, private and company) restrictions on whom you might record (so you may not freely record the streets).

This law is rather there to prevent member states giving the permissions to law enforcement agencies - just transferring data outside the EU is very questionable for those agencies already, and let external ones do what is illegal in the EU is probably even less likely allowed.

@vane which is also not allowed.

You are not allowed to store personal data from EU citizens outside the EU. Technically devRant should store the data from EU users inside the EU.

The less severe infringements could result in a fine of up to €10 million, or 2% of the firm’s worldwide annual revenue from the preceding financial year, whichever amount is higher.

This means that they can fine devRant for 10 million euros for not doing that. Startups younger than two years are excluded from these laws but since devRant is older than that they are technically not following EU laws.

For facial data the fines are higher. 20 million or 4% whichever is higher.

Since storing facial data from public areas outside of the EU is technically two breaches this can be given two fines.

@sbiewald @Codex404 what will be illegal exactly ?

Record and store video content outside EU border in separate datacenter ?
So youtube is illegal.

Then hire third party company from south america to process the data and give insights from their api ?

Replace person details with id meaning some group of people ex. white, male 20-25 years : 25 people per hour.

Who will ban that ?
I just made it in 5 minutes by myself.

It’s shit talk and we will pay for it.

Did GDPR stopped marketers calling me ? No. So this won’t change anything besides small companies that can’t afford army of lawyers will be fucked.

@Codex404 and me are both unable to make a precise forecast how a law will be when and if it will be written.

Anyway:
An army of lawyers? Seriously? Isn't a one time meeting enough to get some legal advise?

And just because everyone (*) uploads videos to YouTube, does not mean it is always legal. Additionally it might be illegal (depending on the case and circumstances) to work with data extracted from videos.
Just because it is practiced, does not mean it is legal - the same applies to telemarketers (on a side note, your country might have exceptions which explicitly allows telemarketers under some circumstances; Germany for instance, has a law that allows automatic newsletter subscriptions for 'similar service' with an opt out).

(*) of course not really everyone

@sbiewald

let me describe your illegal with other words.
“Less accessible for ordinary person.”

Same like drugs and other things.

I presume we will see more projects like this that don’t solve one big problem but will introduce many more.

Let’s define problem then:

How to have a cake ( preserve information to identify person by government authorities inside world wide web ) and eat a cake ( use internet and electronics anonymously).

I just want to eat cake but politicians want to have it. It’s dead end.

Why government need to know my identity I don’t know besides gaining power and oppression mechanisms to indoctrinate me.

History proved that people managed to live for centuries without knowing anyone in other villages and also people live and die like that now.

How to make borders (countries) in system that by definition was made to be without borders ?

Ban everything around besides borders so yes you can cross it but you can’t take this or that and only one pack of cigarettes please. We banned using metric system so you must use our system here.

Who will be hurt ?
Obviously people in countries with borders cause everyone else will don’t give a fuck about them cause they live inside their anonymous village and those countries have no authority there.

That’s how I see it and I don’t think that any authority will change that with forbidding me “pick 2 packs of cigarettes when I visit youtube”

Good luck.

Read as "regulators want time to figure out how they can exempt themselves.."