any advice for a junior dev that can't get any fucking help from the senior devs? I can only in good-conscience try to solve a problem for so long before I know I'm seriously wasting my time

when I ask for help I often get "I'll get to your question in two or three days"

like damn I'm pretty stuck here guy

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@spoiledgoods – Bring the issue to your manager. The sooner a senior dev can help you, the sooner you improve. As an improved dev, you increase your value to the team/company. And so on.

Bottom line: it's in everyone's best interest that you get assistance ASAP. If your manager doesn't think so, escalate the issue to his/her manager.

What I would do is demonstrate that you're trying by documenting your work in the mean time just so your manager doesn't end up thinking you're fucking around all day waiting for senior devs to help.

This is the best advice is not the advice that maybe you like, but is the best one I receive:

rtfm:

Read the fucking manual

In other words means read the documentation

@elgringo what if there is none? 🤔

@sladuled read the code most tools are written in scripted languages

@elgringo "reading the manual" doesn't really work when you've working with massive programs, there's no manual for what we do

@elgringo for example they have a massive server I needed to use to ssh to a computer somewhere across the state, I literally could not continue my project until I did so, but had to wait hours for them just to send me the server name, password. reading the manual wouldn't help there would it?

@spoiledgoods each company is unique and have different way to do process / workflows.

Read about theory of constraints and show management what areas of the process/workflow require improvement

@elgringo exactly my point yes.