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A completely technical observation.

When I was out in a bar the other night, I watched someone play a poker machine, and it dawned on me, Poker machines haven't been adjusted for inflation.

20 years ago if you won 5 quid, it may have bought a round, but now you would be lucky to buy a pint with 5 quid.

I can still beat the machine myself, I thought it was interesting that there is less of a payoff for any coin you spend, so much so that it looks like a rip off.

I used to hate seeing guys throw their entire wage packet into machines on a Friday night.

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    I mean its a rate isn't it? Like its not a fixed payoff?

    Dunno. i never wanted to gamble coz my grand daddy was a card addict. Ended up on the street he did
  • 2
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    @antigermgerm I can see it as "a rate" but it has lost value over the years, maybe professional outlets have a better rate but I'm talking about local bars that have the same machines for as long as I can remember.
  • 2
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    You're calling a slot machine a poker machine? :p Never seen a poker machine. Poker doesn't care about inflation.

    I once saw an slot machine addict that had to wait on his turn, someone else was playing. He look at if any time the jackpot would fall. Very unreasonable.

    I've spend so much time in thar bar and always did see same people playing it (a lot) and no one getting (decent) money out of it. I doubt if there's a rule that it should give a certain % back guaranteed, it's nearly impossible to be true imo
  • 1
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    @bazmd well yeah but the fee is smaller as well innit?
  • 3
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    @retoor remember pinballz? I miss pinbaalz, too bad they disapeared. Now the only ones left are the gambling bingo one.

    Apparently if you go to the wrong one at the wrong time you can get hurt.
  • 2
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    @antigermgerm my office had pinballmachines and they broke every time and on top they use a lot of room. So that makes it i popular I assume. The whole game room at office was rental or smth, replacing stuff every few months. You'll find me never in a game room, I came to work
  • 2
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    @antigermgerm I know, the point is, you can feed ten quid into a machine and it will play like it's 1989.

    A poker is 4 quid, with a hi-lo gamble which you will lose, a royal flush is 15 quid, which is three pints.

    If you get a poker it should at least be 30 quid.

    Or maybe it's a good thing and people stop gambling on machines.
  • 1
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    @bazmd a royal flush, just 15?

    @chatgpt how big is the chance of having a royal flush?
  • 1
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    @retoor
    The probability of hitting a royal flush in a standard 5-card poker hand is about 1 in 649,740. So it is indeed quite rare!
  • 2
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    @retoor Not slot machines, there are actual poker machines. Fruit machines are easy to break if you know how to play them, but they're still taking in more than they give out.
  • 2
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    @bazmd yes, and they say they pay out 1/3rd or smth. I'm sure it's 1/10th based on all those people see playing without winning anything. I did see it return a few euros though.

    But with poker it doesn't matter if you have a royal flush right? Winning is winning? Doesn't matter if you have royal flush or three of a kind or a pair for the amount to win
  • 1
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    @retoor I think a royal flush here is 15 quid today and it was the same 20 years ago, maybe I'm wrong but it seems like a huge difference.
  • 1
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    @bazmd it sounds like a basic slot machine with a poker theme. Poker just doesn't work that way. Royal flush can't have a certain amount
  • 1
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    @retoor 20 years ago if you won 15 quid on a poker machine, it may have been worth playing, not today though. £15 will get you 3 pints today, 20 years ago it would have got you 8-10 pints.
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    @bazmd

    Yeah, I think either you or the machine got the royal flush and poker chances/payoff switched up.

    @retoor

    I'm Spain at least slot machines are required by law to both:

    - pay off at least 70% of income in prizes.
    - have at least one "jackpot" every 20000 plays.

    Of course, the whole "at least" is stupid, because obviously they adjust for the minimum always.
  • 1
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    @CoreFusionX yh, we have such law too but I don't trust the slot machines at specific Cafe to actually do that
  • 1
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    @bazmd oooor, hear me out, you found a niche and it's time for you to put a few of those machine out yourself. How hard can it be? You just need the king to allow you I suppose
  • 1
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    @CoreFusionX spanish people and their bingo machine.
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