Most software titles (Engineering Manager, Tech Lead, Solutions Architect) are bullshit.

Only think that matters is Junior, Mid, Senior and Lead Engineer.

Rest = garbage, the industry changes quicker that when one climbs up the bullshit career ladder to only find out he is obsolete.

And even that doesn't say much unless you expect a certain amount of years experience per level. Else you're mid in one company and senior in the other. I wouldn't take a junior anymore IT related for any language with overall experience. Starting from mid. It's not that you didn't learn from all other experiences

I disagree. One describes what you're doing, the other tells your seniority level. You can be a senior on a managerial position, but you can also be a senior while being an individual contributor.

Until this’ll be regulated by the government/law it still be a mess.
Some people think they are a Software Engineer after watching the full programming course on Youtube.
Some others after asking Chatgpt for piece of code thinks they are a Software Architect and with Senior roles…

I mean you could just talk to the person and figure it out internally for yourself

@kamen ie. Any derivative of software engineer is doing nothing.

@jestdotty what’s even the point of speaking to colleagues?

@Tounai to understand how they are as people what they know what they could be useful for, what they wanna do and who they wanna become?

it's gathering Intel for if you're friends or enemies, if you have shared values you'll both defend against other groups encroaching on you or not, and also to take stock of skills, talents (more complicated) and aspirations (which leads to voluntary cooperation instead of depressing necessity)

with this you can make more lubricated, more efficient, networks of competent humans, who are happy / confident and not depressed / nihilistic, and feel their lives have meaning and space for their creativity and humanity, and go somewhere conceptually unknown, experience the adventure of traveling through space and time

something like that idk

@jestdotty
I have a strict no friendship at work policy – it’s cultural though, and British people are dishonest by nature – and I try to work alone as much as I can as it goes faster this way. From that point, only technical discussion is necessary with technical people and no discussion at all with the rest is needed

@Tounai ye dishonest people suck. interesting you noticed the British are dishonest, too

@jestdotty Not dishonest per se, more like hypocrit

@Tounai hipocrite is the worst way of dishonest

no friendship at work policy is stupid. Almost all my friends are from former employers. Imagine missing those great people because of some policy..

@retoor Yeah, so I let you imagine when hypocrisy is a culture.

Think of it as a way to keep work life and personal life separated. It can become messy otherwise.

@Tounai nah, never had them separated. I like work & talking about it. Talking about work with a colleague in a bar is fine for me

@retoor talking about work is not friendship to me 😂 And I prefer being home rather than speaking about work (pub during working hours is fine though)

@retoor I'd make friends at work if they didn't just wanna be friends cuz they wanna sleep with me

I'm hoping once everyone gets old and their hormones calm down. the old guys were great and didn't do any of that nonsense. but the young guys kept doing retarded shit. by this point I have trust issues with someone asking me to hang out with them. there was one guy who kept trying to ask me to hang out with him for 2 weeks and he wouldn't just come out and ask me out. I just kept asking him "why" and he kept being frustrated. actually everyone around the office hated him, I got to find out later once I had left, cuz he just had such bad opinions and the other dudes would make fun of him for them. they told me this at a party later once they heard I left -- and those guys were fine and not fucking weirdos, but they never invited me to their friend group otherwise so womp womp

@retoor wait ok lemme ask

what do you do with sneaker males?

@jestdotty what is that?

@retoor ragh

it occurred to me maybe they just exist in the anglosphere... damnit

@jestdotty just found out what anglosphere means Cool that there's a word for that. Crazy that the definition includes a language. It could also have been "countries that share cultural, historical, and political ties" so in that case you would have english anglosphere and spanish anglosphere. I should design natural languages

@retoor I don't think it's shared history. I think it's all drinking from the same propaganda fountain. in anglosphere we don't even have a history anymore, they're banning books and removing them from Amazon by this point like 1984

it occurred to me though if someone wasn't natively English they didn't believe that incel rhetoric tho

like even if someone doesn't have success in NL they don't take up the pervading incel ideology. so you guys don't have a cultural sneak male factory. bah

At $work I’m a “software engineer.” Not a junior, not a senior, not a staff or principal or whatever. Just a software engineer.

Nearly everyone else there is a senior or principal dev. Not because they write elegant and performant code, architect well, understand new things quickly, etc. In fact, to my knowledge not a one of them with these titles are particularly skilled. What they all have in common, however, is a) having a high minority score, or b) being hired after HR decided to use titles.

In the former case, promotions are easy and readily available; in the latter, titles come by default. For those whom these two cases do not apply… promotions are neigh impossible.

So no, titles do not always mean much, either. Nor do years of experience, certifications, references, attributions, etc. I’ve seen many a useless yet highly-decorated developer.

Talk is cheap. Show me the code.