Okay recently I've seen more and more hate towards Apple.
So this got me curious why is Apple so bad according you guy?
I mean they are just sticking at their founding rules and kept it ever since.

Apple is just meh ...

They are overpriced and not innovative anymore.
For me their only good products are macOS and Swift.

What are these founding rules you speak of. Where can i look them up. Is it
1. Steal technology from other companies.
2.make it our own through legal bs.
3. Make everything proprietary so they have to buy our stuff only.
4. Update old products untill they don't work anymore so they have to buy a new phone.

@Torbuntu also not going for touch screen interface but then adding the touchbar cos you know innovation whoo

@Torbuntu fake innovation still 🤣😂