Get a bachelors degree or higher from a decent uni or college. It's gives you a solid foundation teaching you stuff that you wouldn't otherwise spend time on because frankly it's shit boring. Like compiler technology and low-level programming languages. I believe this broader understanding which eventually allows you to become a better developer and architect.

Yes, the first year at a real job will teach you a ton more relevant stuff than 3 years at uni. But that's just not what it's about. Ignorant people just think it is.

I have a bachelor but barely learned anything programming related. When i started my internship i was trying to build a site with tables…. Yes this was a it related education still

@bad-practice Yep, but that's my point: you get an education to "learn how to learn". And to see some stuff hardly any employers will ever encourage you to do.

I have only realised this later in my career.

@devdiddydog can't say that I agree here. What I've seen of most students is that they learn how to get passing marks. There is more compiler and low level enthusiasm amongst hobbyists.

Could just be a reflection on schools being crap here, or at least so abstract that it has lost touch a bit too much. My programming class for bachelor was just boring Java OO. Nothing exciting love creating a DSL or useful like loose coupling. Anything that bordered on actual research and veered away from the assigned books a bit didn't get a passing mark. They just don't understand it.
As a result I get to deal with graduates that think they are hot shit and can't write remotely clean code. Rather have an uneducated open source contributor.

@hjk101 Yes, the focus at uni is to get passing marks - I get that. And if you're like me you did a night shift before the exams and just poured out what you knew the next morning and got through. Three weeks later the knowledge was gone.

I just think there is something more to it, something you don't really realize or appreciate at the time. Of course, given that you choose some sensible subjects.

Graduates that think they are hot shit is a generation issue (Gen Y onwards). It's not because they got an education. They are just built wrong, and society and their parents are to blame. Some of them can be fixed, some are just write-offs.

@devdiddydog
I'm still part of gen Y 🤣 but yeah there is a lot of entitlement in the later generations. It does seem to be more present in the graduates though. Perhaps they haven't had a reality check yet. Or mommy and daddy bought them in to the entitled school to make entitle little pricks of them.

Just posted similar experiences of a fellow ranter:
https://devrant.com/rants/6028376/...