Why do managers always want to fucking "discuss"? If you had literally a first-grader's education in basic electronics, you could define tasks and tickets by yourself and not have to fumble around all day and fuck it up,

Self importance and feel like they are "moving the needle"

@iSwimInTheC 🥱

Then the best is when they passive-aggressively "congratulate" you after some milestone when deep down inside they themselves think it was their doing all along 🤦‍♂️

@fullstackclown At least they 'congratulate' you.

The senior here does not fix the problem (Because he doesn't know shit)

Yet when fixed, he will tell externals that 'I fixed the problem'

Same person who bought a full dms system, yet in a meeting he doesn't know that we already have OCR, docuSign, or even the possibility to send electronic invoices.

(That last part for him, sending emails with a PDF via a shared mailbox called 'e-invoice' are 'electronic invoice' 🤦‍♂️)

Does not know what EDI is even when a lot of customers are asking for it instead of emails...

What a shitshow damn...

@Grumm dude that's toxic and embarrassing for him. i would rage quit said company immediately

@fullstackclown Problem is that, I normally are software developer. I have my own tasks and I like doing that work.

It is just hard to see all the other stuff breaking down just because he cannot manage his work anymore.

From time to time, I rant about it, but now most of the times I don't even care anymore. Just doing my job, making sure that it is done correctly and keep customers happy.

But yes, I am very close to just quit this clown circus...

They only do it for show. If you listen to their responses they will be mirror images of your questions.

It will always amaze me how no one in hiring departments realizes that if you want good management of a technical team you maybe, just maybe, should hire a manager with some technical background.

But yeah, expensive email forwarders...

Helicopter parents.

not equating this to your situation but have a funny story. When i was a PM I had a dev ask to stop the weekly meetings and stop bothering him. So I did, why not do an experiment. I monitored what he was doing, update my schedules base on how things were progressing. Kept e-mails to a minimum and he always knew what needed to be worked on next. I loved it. He was an asshole so less talking was great. After 7 months we do an end-of-year review. He complains i don't communicate enough.

@1g12345678 ah so there ARE product managers hiding in this site! I knew it!

Get out of here product manager!!!!

out! out! out!

@1g12345678 and just before you call a dev an asshole, read a few more of the posts here and see what we have to deal with as a baseline overhead in addition to all the actual pain-in-the-ass coding we do. for example, i get a new ticket: "app bug"

no description, no screenshots or video, no nothing, priority 3X high

give respect to get respect.

i'm not directing this at you, but us engineers, if we detect for a second you are bullshitting and or didn't put any effort in, we for sure aren't going to reciprocate

@fullstackclown I WAS a PM am now a dev. You should have met the guy. He was an asshole and the rest of the dev team hated him. But hey, maybe you are right.

@fullstackclown True !

The work relationship between me and my senior is not that great, but other colleagues tell me always how direct I am and not hiding what is going on.

This isn't about not having respect for the person. It is about work. And if one person is always bullshitting or not telling the truth. Well sorry but I will say it straight to the man. If he doesn't like it I don't care tbh.

We are not working for fun or pleasure. But I get pride and pleasure from the work I do.