So since this is a trending topic. What do you think of "quiet quitting"?

Just a buzzword in my opinion. Nobody's going > 100% each and every day in their career and its been that way since the beginning.

@Sid2006 I agree. I don't know why suddenly this word become a trend.

As someone that basically never stops working, always available, always fixing shit even on my "free time", always helping customers even on Sundays - I have started to embrace it

@Linux ❤️🎉

Well... You give me a shitty project, I do the bare minimum to keep it afloat. You give me a cool project, I strive and work hard to make it as good as possibile.

That's it, folks!

@no-oxygen How is that 'quiet quitting' ?

Does that shitty project fall in your job ? Then it is your freaking job.

Being picky about projects shouldn't reflect the quality you give to your boss. He is paying you for doing the job.

Senior here is 2 years (1,5y now actually) until retirement. He does absolutely shit anymore. New project ? meh don't care, I don't want to learn new stuff, let's push it back 3-5 years.

New windows ? Not my problem. I will not spend time learning new stuff.

Wtf... shouldn't any employee have an obligation to the company to work at 100% (or at least a minimum of commitment or care in your job)

As soon as I don't have dedication for the job anymore, I would just quit and find something new to do.

No way I would screw a company by doing not what is expected to be done.

@Grumm agreed but 100% every day for years is too much for me.

Not like they give 100% for me. And it is an exchange being an employee. I work for them instead of another company (that probably will pay more) in exchange for money, learning opportunities and enjoying my work. It's not just money, and most companies don't give a fuck about the other two so they aren't giving me 100%.

If you're a contractor that's different

Yep, doesn't exist. Once again a generation of people just made a new word up, as they do, to make it look like they invented something new...

I'm starting to realize that this is like a colleague that never reads documentation and doesn't try to look for code repetition in your code base, so he just keeps making new functions with his own names and usages despite that same functionality already existing in code... Weird analogy, I know.

@Grumm When you say "100%" you don't really mean 100% thought. It's somewhat of a buzz amount because no one does that. 100% would be constant work for 8 hours at your maximum performance, complete focus. no coffee brakes, no chit-chat, no smokes, nothing else... That would kill a person. In reality the really productive ones work at about 80% (I'm using the 80-20 rule for that estimate, 80% work - 20% leisure). That gets you about 6.4hr work and 1.6hr leisure which is much more realistic. One an important day you can put it close to 90% maybe that's unmaintainable for more than a day or two and leads to massive burnout.

but obviously doing 0% is a big problem, so that senior is just kinda abusing his status at that point. The way I think about it: As long as you finish your tasks on time you can as well work at 1%, as long as the company gets what they estimated for you. I'd understand if a senior with 1.5y till end doesn't have the same ladder climbing motivation as you and I

@Hazarth Yes, 100% is not like full '100%'

More like you are hired for a job, so do the job.

I too can finish projects well before the deadline and spend the rest of the time working on documentation, refactor old stuff.

But there is still the commitment and dedication.

We all have tasks we like more than others. Every job has some boring stuff that needs to be done.

But to make it a trend of 'quiet quitting' ? That is just for lazy people to have an excuse of not doing what they need to do.

And the point I wanted to make about the senior, is that the amount of years you still need to work should not affect the motivation.

When you only look at him, you can only see a person who has given up on any standards, no pride left and comes to work only because he has to be here.

Where do they come up with trademarked catch phrases these days ?

Why not funny things like donkey punch lol
Why is it words like triggered or.. toxic masculinity or Ivory tower or islamaphobia or the 1000s of disgusting bywords you people use or safe space
Or list goes on

And why does it seem like the whole world went nuts right around the time people hypocritically started spouting Bs about sensitivity ?

But no never heard the words quiet quitting since before the last time you posted this rant

Ps I refuse to look up wtf this brain pollution is

@Hazarth not at all.

@Grumm what I meant is more akin to the following: the level of commitment varies between the (acceptable) bare minimum to really strive to make things better depending on the project.

Let's say you're given a legacy project. Bloated, quasi-impossibile to manage and improve upon and that's the only thing you do all day. Your commitment will be slowly chipped away at, one piece at a time. That's what I meant. However, that's not true if projects are balanced (e.g. one super bad project + a modern, new one).

Maybe I'm not actually understating the definition of "quiet quitting" but I don't think I'm too off the mark here

@no-oxygen It is possible that I am wrong too you know :)

But when I first heard of this 'quiet quitting' and did a quick search, google told me it is 'doing exactly what the job requires, no more no less'

As you see, there is also the 'no less' in the definition.

So in fact, we all are 'quiet quitting' xD

What is that?