What is it with UX designers who have no clue about what makes a good, usable, logical and efficient to develop and maintain UI that users will be happy to use?

The profession appeared out of nowhere a few years back and I have yet to meet a single one who has even basic sense of what makes good UX.

Then you have only met UX that come from graphical design I guess, with form over function thinking.

But UX designershave been around for a long time, its just not been popular in dev teams on a broad scale.

In the computer industry it is considered to have started 1993 at apple but bell labs had IX designers 1950.

https://nngroup.com/articles/...

And I personally have read articles on it since the late 90’s.

Actually the graphical designers are better because they are happy to defer to common sense when it comes to building these applications.

This new breed tend to specialise in mobile apps.

@m12lrpv ah, yes, if you only design for mobile users and still have desktop I can see the problem.

Sometimes you just have to have different UX for different platforms for it to work.

UX, per se, is a useful aspect to improve in an application.
However, as other large parts of our industry, it is an brand new and overhyped position that companies have no clue on how to recruit for.
So most of us end up meeting a bunch of UX "professionals" that are essentially bullshit hires, whose main function is to make the top brass feel "disruptive" and "adaptable" and "on the cutting edge of the industry" and other meaningless buzzwords.

It is the same thing that happens with data scientists, the name often given to the position of "kid who cannot code but can divide numbers of five digits in their head and say anime words like 'multi-layered perception' so we can tel mum we do data science too!"

Again, UX is a very useful subject.
And as with most useful things, the hype cycle screws it up for everybody.

@JsonBoa “Brand new”? As in have existed for two decades ;)

The problem is that UX is not always designed for the correct target.

Either you have the mobile vs desktop problem, or you fail to know the customer.

A good rule is “ you are not your customer”. Make sure you understand the users needs, they might not match how you would use the product b

@Voxera indeed.
I've meant to say "on the rising tide of the hype cycle".
Althought I only started hearing of a position with a name like "user experience" in 2019 onwards, I did worked with "interface designers" before.

Now I am curious, is the name "UX" a supposed to be a rebranding of the "designer" position or it has a different scope? Because at least from my relatively removed point of view, companies seem to be treating both as one and the same. Not quite sure if they should.

@JsonBoa they should not and many probably bundles ui and ux despite being quite different things.

Ui will affect ux and vice versa but they are different things just like statistics and ai is different things but there is an overlap and both can affect the other.

But UX have been around a ling time, especially outside of computer science and many times have more in common to how you design a stove or similar.

Good UX is intuitive and helpful, bad UX is even dangerous as shown by the Therac 25 problems

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...