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Tired of working 12 hour shifts, I want to go to Europe, I want to feel like an actual human fucking being damn it.

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    Ain't that easy. Being "that <insert your non-western-euro ethnicity here> guy" in a weuro company isn't exactly a complete change in terms of treatment.

    Try going someplace cheaper where "I can code in English" is an in-demand skill. I've heard good things about Costa Rica.
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    @JsonBoa not in treatment, but the laws are different 🤷

    where are you from op? i mean, things suck here as well but I don't think people do 12h here, not without extra hours payment anyway
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    I'm in Europe and I feel stressed. Oh wait, that's because of work...
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    @darksideofyay the laws in EU protects euro citizens, not people that happen to be in europe.
    First they say something like "it's much harder for us to hire an Indian as a full-time employee, and the taxes! It's easier if you are an independent contractor!"
    Then they say something like "you get to be your own boss! Make your own hours!"
    Finally they pile up work on you until you spend more time on your desk than out of it. And if you say anything, away with niceties, "you are lucky to be here! there are a billion like you ready to take your place if you will not do it!"
    All 100% legal.

    Non-weuro person?
    Wanna get some moneys that show no humans and fewer zeroes? The price is relinquishing feeling like a person.
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    @JsonBoa well, some people are lucky, specially if they're white.

    anyway, the independent contractor thing happens here as well. it's a shitty excuse to avoid paying what we're owed, but some people fall for that.
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    @JsonBoa the laws are the same but non-citizens are more desperate so they are easier to exploit. And not every company follows the law.
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    @JsonBoa I'm a French speaker though so I want to take advantage of that
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    @JsonBoa Wouldn't that depend on where you are in Europe tho?
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    @thirdworld I've never heard of a country that makes it easy for foreign workers to have the full-range of rights that local citizens do.
    I've had bad experiences in London and Germany, and have not heard good things about the Netherlands.
    Never been to France, though. And I've indeed heard good things about her, from Southeast Asians... but only about that part of France that is in South America.

    As people have said, you might get lucky. Just not expect a paradise from the moment your feet touch the ground.
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    As an expat in the current country I live in, it's guaranteed you will still work 12-hour shifts in Europe. This will be especially true if.you come over trying to prove your worth through some SMEs/startups.
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