Wow apple really did - they arrived where microsoft was 20 years ago.
Apple ads used to be about the experience, the lifestyle, simple and elegant.
Now all we get is ‚3.7 times faster‘, ‚13x faster graphics card‘, max and pro CPUs (probably home, home pro and home premium too some time …).
‚advanced thermal architecture‘ ….

Bullshit bingo deluxe …🤦

Don't forget the timeless classic:
"Our fastest and most advanced <product> yet!"

Well I sure would have hoped so, otherwise what are you doing?

ffs. it is thier pro laptops...

Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc are all focused on tracking you and your data now. They don't give a flying fuck about the product they push to the users. They want your data so they can fuck you up the ass with barb wire. They are actively in cahoots with organizations that want you dead.

Or course their stuff is shit. They think you are STUPID and will buy their SHIT even if its still warm.

@Demolishun Desktop Linux is ready for end users if there are no needs for particular software. Of course, it does help to keep Linux compatibility in mind when buying the hardware because some vendors just don't give a shit.

@Fast-Nop Gonna have to disagree. Every freaking tutorial on how to change/fix something in Linux involves CLI at some point. It is only getting worse. Maybe if there is a team at a company supporting end users (that way for Windows often), but at home the end user is screwed if something goes wrong. I really like Linux, but the state of the art is pretty bad when things go wrong. I am technical, and I hate having to fix everything with hundreds of commands myself. I use command line all day at work, but don't want to deal with it for what I use windows for. I am probably old and cranky when it comes to computers. So there is that.

Edit: I do agree on the hardware, but it really shouldn't be a "surprise your fucked" because you bought nvidia, IMO.

@Demolishun Depending on the distro, you can fix most of the things also via the GUI. Not to mention that I didn't have trouble in the first place except with setting up the printer-scanner that I bought ten years ago with no consideration to Linux.

The reason why tutorials use the CLI is because it's faster to show. Also, the CLI commands don't depend on your system language while your GUI does so that you'd have to make every tutorial for every language.

Not to mention that you even CAN fix things while the two most frequent tips in MS' help forums are rebooting and re-installing the OS because you just can't troubleshoot Windows.

Yeah, you shouldn't have to watch for the hardware, but that decision is with the hardware manufacturers.

@Demolishun If you don't want to tinker and just want things nicely OOTB, I recommend checking out Linux Mint Cinnamon, i.e. the live USB stick without installation just for having a look.

That's what I chose for the end users in my family who have no IT background at all. It's also why I'm using Mint myself so that I would catch any potential troubles myself.

@Fast-Nop I hope your right on it getting better for non-devs. I stopped helping people install Linux years ago due to printer issues. The end user couldn't get a printer installed and were unwilling to google a solution. They started bad mouthing me. So I stopped being an advocate. Windows is for the people who don't want to learn anything. I get their perspective too. It shouldn't be that hard to print shit. Printer companies are to blame there. I guess it comes down to hardware every time. lol But should hardware companies need to support platforms that don't make them any money? Chicken and the egg there.

@Fast-Nop I did. It installed, nvidia worked. Did update. Everything video fucked. Just did update via cli this weekend: update, upgrade, etc. It updated a BUNCH of video stuff. Still black screen. I expect I will do this until it finally works again and then never update again.

Edit: is relation to Linux Mint Cinnamon

@Fast-Nop Its an RTX 3060. I wonder if its "too new for linux" issue.

Edit: My effort to resolve this has been "low" however. Other problems to solve atm.

@Demolishun That's unfortunate. I can't even advise properly because I've never had Nvidia graphics.

I remember that after one AMD Catalyst update for my HD 6850 back under Win 7, the video playback was blocky so that I reverted to the previous version and never updated the drivers again. :)

@Demolishun the question is, is a CLI really worse than the clusterfuck that is control panel?

At the beginning of the previous decade iPhone commercials used to be really cool showing nice features of the iPhone with a catchy background music, now are just devices randomly spinning, graphic effects which seems taken from a psychedelic trip and annoying “pumped” electronic music.