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amorphousjax
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Other guy on a project (in college), let's call him piece of shit or pos for short.

For 2 months pos has done nothing. Absolutely nothing. When I asked, he said he had some exam. Or some other exam. Or some other bullshit. (I have acads too, and juniors have more than us - college is taking its covid frustration out on them)

Yesterday I asked again, to make a presentation to be given today. I worked on this presentation for 3 days but it didn't turn out good, so deleted my work and asked pos to do it (fresh perspective etc). Meanwhile I'm working a second project (which has a different story).

Pos does nothing yesterday. At 1 AM I tell him to send me the presentation if he's done. Pos says he'll pull it off during the night. He doesn't.

A few minutes ago he pings our juniors to give him screenshots. Basically demanding them. When someone responds with emojis, "Don't give me this (emojis), give me screenshots asap". He's done close to nothing for the juniors overall.

How do I get someone like this to work and treat the other members with some respect?

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  • 3
    3y
    You don't get someone like this to work. There can be many reasons for that behaviour but fixing other people is not your job.

    Make sure the person deciding on the grades is aware of how much of nothing he did and hope they give a shit. Rewarding people with good grades for doing nothing is usually the worst that could happen to them as well.
  • 0
    3y
    @rutee07 I can't kick 1 person out of a 2 person team :(
  • 0
    3y
    @rutee07 there's other barriers too. But thanks for understanding my exact sentiment.
    Other barriers: we work in a club which has seniors above us who do the selecting. There is no record of a kicking in the 10 years of its existence. And I don't want to impress that sort of an image onto my seniors - that I can't put up with people or something, because to them he responds. He usually bullshits, but gets away with it, so I don't think they'll take me seriously if I went to them saying all this, even if I'm actually justified by all the chats and work I've done
  • 2
    3y
    Unfortunately there is absolutely no good way to deal with a person like that. The bottom line is that you cannot make someone care. If they do not want to do work they are going to find a way out of it, or do the shittiest job possible.

    I wish could say it gets better in the work world but it doesnt. My old boss always used to that 10% of the people do all the work and 90% do nothing. In my 15 years of working this is generally pretty true.

    It might be temping to tell your boss about someone's lack of contribution but this rarely results in any action. Most people dont care about doing quality work meaning that the majority of the work burden falls on the few people that do care. Honestly the best thing you can do is to just accept that this is the case and dont expect others for help. If it means that you end up doing all the work just find a way to be at peace with that. I know its easier said than done, I still get frustrated working with others that do not pull their weight.
  • 1
    3y
    @thomas66777 appreciate your comment very much. A bit saddened to know this is something I would face when I join industry too (lack of accountability). I hope by the time I leave college I learn to cope with this better
  • 1
    3y
    Just tell him how you feel.

    That's always step1. Doesn't have to be more complicated than that.
    Sometimes you get an unexpected answer like "my mom died" and then you get why they are behaving oddly. Sometimes you get an answer like "Oh shit i didn't realise I was such an asshole".
  • 1
    3y
    @jiraTicket I don't have it in me to directly say all this to him. But I've told him that I think our club is his lowest priority. He denied. I also have told him to take initiative, he recently added someone to assist with our shit without even asking me to a group, and said that was his initiative. In the previous year when we were juniors he has said in our team group that he likes bullying me (he does) because he "likes to see how I react", I've reacted angrily to this both public and privately but it has no effect. And when recruitment for this year went on, he also stated (in front of a bunch of people) when I indicated my preference that since I'm joining he's definitely joining. Since then I've personally felt I made a wrong choice, however I really wanted to work in the group, I've wanted to expand it to levels unheard of which is why I still stay
  • 2
    3y
    @amorphousjax Oh damn. Didn't understand just how bad the situation was, but the bullying thing made it clear.

    Then I'm shifting my advice entirely to blaming this adshole as much as possible.
    (Allthough I would be careful to only focus on things which he ignored for a long time. Not anything to do regarding deadlines. This presentation conflict sounds so stressful that it's not something people would blame him for)
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