HR is a dead role in modern tech recruitment. You can pay programmers to do tech interviews and the rest is already automatable. Nobody needs large swarms of cubicle fucks sitting around all day poring through resumes they don’t understand pretending to add value.

Change my mind.

HR at my company actually filtered out personality mismatches.

We harbor a pretty positive environment and don't just want anyone to be a part of the team.

If it wasn't for HR I would have been looking at thousands of CVs for weeks without ever developing a single product.

HR still plays a large role in a company, but that entirely relies on how apt they are in their position between internal and external.

They also managed interactions between subordinate/supervisor when required.

Also, I don't want to tell someone they're fired, that's HRs job. My job is to make sure they're productive and can do their job.

@sariel I don’t mind that part. It kind of sucks, but they should already know it’s coming.

HR filtering personality conflicts though sounds pretty nice. At my employer… HR organizes events and sort of handles insurance (and fails at it), and … polices slack chat. That’s about it.

It really depends on what HR is doing. With us it provides a lot. With previous company it was non-existent, finance handled everything on the side (contacts, payroll, etc.)

So in my current company they do all kinds of things to improve both the position and life of the employees. From work at home and abroad policies to pension and discounts. They also try to research happiness and the reasons for people leaving. In the interviewing they check for cultural fit and of course profile. Only than it is kicked up to the manager who further investigates personality and a bit tech background. After that team members are actually involved for the pure tech interview.
HR handles coordination of this process and all documentation/contact/negotiation.

Would really suck if we would have to do all this.

HR's primary role is to protect the company from it's employees, I don't see that being automated anytime soon.

Alright, I'll try with this hypothetical scenario.

You work at a small-ish company. 25 developers total.

However, 10 of the positions are currently not filled.

Management being management, is acting as if all the positions are filled and is giving the dev team a workload meant for 35 developers.

You need to meet a very important deadlines because of course you do.

There are 200 applicants to a dev position, each with their own resume.

If you can conduct a proper interview that lets you know if an applicant would fit in your company in 30 minutes, that still is 100 hours total.

And then you need to filter down the best 10 candidates with a few backups just in case a candidate decides not to work at your company even if he was selected (who knows, maybe he saw it was a sweatshop on glassdoor or something)

Basically HR is used to filter down candidates. A dev would be better suited for the job? Sure, but companies would rather have devs working than managing interviews.

@sariel anybody can filter personality mismatches. Do we need a department that eats away millions just for that? I’m sure tech management can learn to do these things.

@nibor Not in my fucking country it ain’t. HR’s job over here is to look like they’re doing something useful and fuck people over for no reason and for no apparent profit to the company.

@hashedram Pretty sure that’s HR’s job description everywhere.

@hashedram I could, but why would I waste my time on doing it when someone who gets paid half of what I do can do it?

I get paid lots of money to build stuff and make sure the stuff that's built doesn't burn down. That's my job.

HR is there to aid in resource allocation and resource management, that's their job.

I think it's bullshit when people like you want to tack on more responsibilities to a role because it's convenient to you, but are the first to complain when something "isn't my job".

Seriously, get real. You couldn't do HRs job because you obviously don't have the emotional aptitude to do it. On top of that I doubt you have the patience to sift thorough hundreds if not thousands of applicants a week without getting all bent because "all these applicants suck".

Surprise! It's not them, it's your toxic personality! Because you thought you were hot shit in a champagne glass but you're cold diarrhea in a Dixie cup.

@sariel cool. Every shitty thing you said about me applies to most HR. Do you really think most HR twats are emotionally mature? What privileged street on elyseum do you live in?