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There's work going on, but it will suck because Apple won't hand out documentation for the GPU, and that means problems with hardware accelerated graphics.
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SortOth963y@purist sure you can. Many people use Macs for their hardware and install Linux the day they buy it.
However drivers support is a big issue, so there aren't that many options. -
purist12163y@SortOth but why ? I have people asking me to switch to mac for its software. Why would one buy the overpriced fuck for not using the software !?
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SortOth963y@purist Stereo speakers? Trackpad? Retina? Weight? Full body aluminum? Studio quality mic and webcam with post-processing? Quietness? A space heater / thigh barbeque?
Nobody is gonna try to convince you, but you gotta let go of your biases man. And form your own opinion for why mac's features aren't good for you after you used a model for a few days.
When PC laptops try to match those featuresets, like XPS or Carbon X1 - then they are also fucking expensive fucks too :D
The real problem with macs is their ecosystem. Linux is the way. -
purist12163y@SortOth I like the weight of that laptop. But i am not gonna sell my kidney to buy a good looking useless machine just to try and have a opinion about it. Maybe useless is a strong word. But everything is limited in a mac and god knows what they ll block remotely when they dont like what i am doing with their machine ( like using linux )
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purist12163y@SortOth i am seeing it now and it is very affordable..
Just kidding. What in the world !? Custom built to run linux is great. But god who even needs such specs !? 64GB of RAM and 4TB NVMe.. Ofcourse it is expensive. -
@molaram AMD and Intel do invest in open source Linux drivers for their graphics. Nvidia doesn't, which is why I don't buy anything by them.
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purist12163y@Fast-Nop But they are sadly the only GPU provider worth using. I got tired looking for a CUDA equivalent for AMD. I read that OpenCL has lost favour too.
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@purist I have a Linux laptop by Tuxedo, and with AMD 4700U, 32GB RAM, 2TB SATA SSD that cost me 1200 EUR. It's built to order, and you can spec it up or down as you want - CPU, RAM, SSD (storage and SATA / NVMe), and LTE module.
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@purist That's true, AMD is light-years behind on the SW front, and CUDA isn't just about physics, it's also for ML.
But while Nvidia's closed source drivers do suck, they are at least available for Linux. -
purist12163y@Fast-Nop I didnt even know such costlier laptops exist for purposes other than gaming.
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@synemeup Correct. Oh, and the Bios also supports charge control - you can configure it in 10% steps so that it won't charge up to 100%. You lose battery range, but win battery life.
Plus that it has an RJ45 socket for wired ethernet, and a 3.5mm socket for headphones or headset plus mic. And an SD card reader. -
@purist It's marketed as business laptop, which is why it has the low-power 4000U CPUs, not the performance 4000H. But it's still quite a beast for actual work.
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purist12163y@magicMirror Lol.. there is a huge space in between System76 laptops and raspberry pi lol !
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SortOth963y@magicMirror I think M1 laptops are great value for performance, battery life, in a lightweight, sturdy package.
I like girls and laptops the same - skinny, capable, and giving the ability to run "sudo" commands.
Yeah im single. -
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I once did the math, and compared a Dell Precision And a macbookPro.
cost/hardware aka, bang for buck.
Guess who won? also - guess who has better linux support, and a second drive option? -
SortOth963y@magicMirror Will you do it again for M1 please? That's the processor this rant is about
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@magicMirror It's hard for the M1 to score high at bang/buck, given that Apple e.g. charges three times the market rate for the flash storage, compared to Samsung Evo 970 Plus M.2 NVMe which is on a par, technically.
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purist12163y@magicMirror why are you talking about server options !? Nobody wants to use a cluster of raspberry pis as their laptop..
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@purist Developers need those specs, if you don't then you need to find more interesting projects to work on :)
Has anyone tried Linux on an M1 cpu? Which distro seems most determined to support it on Apple Silicon hardware in the future?
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