Some company invited me for coding challenge. Tbh, I can't be arsed. Why can't they look into my fucking git? There is way more info there about how I actually work, so why the fuck not look at what I have done than their fucking exam project?
Urghhhhhhh

Gitlab, actually, where they have access to my graphs and wikis too.

Probably because of the shitheads who give a link to someone else's repos and try to pass that off as their work.

@Fast-Nop or that just copied something.

Or they did not see the type of cases they where looking for.

Either way, they look to hire someone and pay them money, if you do mot like their questions just don’t try ti get that job.

If you really want the job, just do what they ask or if you thing what they are doing borders on illegal report them.

I have done two coding tests and apparently passed both.

I have also facilitated one for an applicant and a good test customized for your specific needs tells you a lot not only on pure coding skill but problem solving, willingness to ask questions or lookup information and to read and understand instructions.

Much of that will not be visible in personal git repositories.

@Voxera I applied cuz I need money and this fits my skillset? Not doing it is really not an option with my current bank balance.

I literally have a kaggle account where I try things. If one can read English, they can read comments on my code too. It's there. They just don't bother.

... Reminds me, I should get back on kaggle...

Bfs, dfs and other tree stuff was popular last year. If it’s big company their questions are in google.

Best of luck, you’ll do fine!

To be honest I find it depends on the challenge and setup. Not everyone does noteworthy stuff on public repos and having a standard assignment helps future team members to get a grip of the situation so they can focus on your solution and decision process.

If it's just a monkey code or algo bs assignment than yeah fuck that. But am assignment that resembles the work you are going to do is fine by me.

TBF this is the first thing I do for any candidate.

Followed by social media and web presence.

If I'm hiring someone to fit the team, I don't need a raging racist with great git commits.

Your struggle against the system is understandable.
Just remember, there's some kid out there who doesn't care about this and will beat you to the job simply because you weren't mentally ready.

That is very easy to answer.
It is very easy to grade you in a challenge that they control.

How much time and effort do you think will take to go into one of your existing projects and try to understand it?
At this point it would be easier to open your head and try to see neurons going about their jobs.

@A4Abhiraj oh, if the kid has done a masters degree and has my experiences and yet this enthusiastic, he's a unicorn and deserves the fucking job.

@sariel the bars have raised. It's not raging racist now; it's more a "someone who does not make trouble" which really doesn't fit me. If it is bad design, it is bad design. I don't care if the guy has 20 years of experience, everybody needs to learn eventually. (Plus, I've worked with bad code. A mistake I'd like to not do, ever again)

@mundo03 I disagree. It would not be easy to mark me on a standard challenge, because I'm tired of doing them as well. And I don't do as well on exams. And chances are, I miss the point and give them something completely off.

And yet there are requirements and codes available on the web. Plus they don't need to wait so much for me to get it done.

@NoMad well it is easy for them, I didn't say it was fair

@NoMad Don't overrate a master. In terms of industrial work, that makes a fresher without industrial experience. Industry isn't uni. Even if you are particularly competent, they have no way of knowing it.

Also, you may be a bit late to the party. In the name of "diversity", a lot of unis have dropped the bar for anyone who isn't an Asian or white man, and the industry may already have taken notice. That's a bad blow for the competent ones in the complementary set.

@Fast-Nop huh. Fascinating. Alternatively, it's the white guys whose perceived place was taken by someone different from them and that's why "industry" is looking down on diversity? I mean, it's not like white men fell out of majority, they just fell out of being the greatest just because.

@Fast-Nop also, uni never dropped the bar for me. If anything, I was never teacher's pet and so I lost out on job opportunities that were offered to my teammates during bachelor. I'd say they were more competent than me, but hey, if there was a magical bar-dropping technique, I wish I knew to take those opportunities.

@NoMad I welcome other people than Asian or white men into the industry if they measure up to the same standards. That was how things worked 20 years ago. If you had the degree and were not an Asian or white man, no questions asked, you were in.

But dropping the bar, that was a mistake IMO, and it basically means that these days, degrees held by tech minorities aren't worth the same. Dropping the bar has been a disservice to the very people it was meant to help.

What's even more frustrating - if they didn't drop the bar for you and you went through the full shit, but the industry has no way of knowing that.

@NoMad I actually actively seek out developers that have strong opinions about architecture and languages.

I myself am very opinionated and I can be difficult to work with once I set my mind on something. I want developers that can keep me and my team on our toes. It only helps keep me relevant and outside my comfort zone.

I just don't want someone swinging their dick around.

@sariel you're a unicorn then. And defo not Australian... (Status quo is strong with us within borders)

Well, I guess this time you have to bite the bullet. But for future reference...

Whenever recruitment process involves a field trip I tell the "travel agent" they need to cover my transport, dinner and reimburse me for a day off at my current job. If they're serious business it's in the HR budget.

I just ask people to show me their code, and ask them assorted things about it. Takes about 10 minutes to figure out if they know what they're talking about.