Anyone else's stomach just absolutely REJECT that beyond or impossible meat?

Where do you live? I really want to try it out. Does it actually taste like meat? It sure does look the same.

Looks like meat, smells like meat, feels like meat, and yet, you can tell it's far from the truth.

Makes me wonder why people actually eat it, since they are ultimately lying to themselves about eating meat while not eating meat.

Strange, I've never seen anyone react to it.

@C0D4 just like you're lying to yourself about watching a concert when watching a video of it on YouTube? Nah. It's about expanding the range of flavours you can get without the (environmental) cost/whatever other objection you might have to meat. It also tastes good but not *exactly* like meat (and I say that as a meat eater). I've used it in everything from burgers to tacos to pizzas and bakes and it works pretty well to get a good approximation of that meaty flavour without (some of) the downsides.

Mark Rober has a really nice video on it https://youtu.be/-k-V3ESHcfA

Tried it once. It just tastes wrong.

“Tastes like meat” No.
“Feels like meat” No.
“Smells like meat” No.

“It’s exactly like meat, but better!”
Just. just no.

I mean, it feels a tiny bit better than bean+TVP patties, but that isn’t saying much. It also smells wrong, tastes hollow and wrong, has noticeably less flavor, and it certainly doesn’t have the same nutrition as meat. That’s the important one. It’s lacking iron, B6/B12, K2, Omega3, etc. and it has lovely things like roundup (glyphosate) because it’s made from plants sprayed with the stuff, and it doesn’t break down. Glyphosate in particular bonds with nutrients in your system (which is how it kills insects) thereby lowering your (likely) already nutrient-starved diet, and kills your gut bacteria too. It’s seriously bad news.

Sure, pesticides don’t hurt you in small doses, but they’re in fucking everything so you don’t get just a small dose. It’s in your cereal, it’s in your bread, your cheese, your fruit, your meat (since your meat eats grains that have been sprayed with it), and in significantly higher concentrations in fake meat for the same reason. It’s also sometimes in your freaking tap water. Good luck avoiding it.

But you can start by avoiding this “impossible meat” that really isn’t worth eating anyway, especially at a higher cost than the real thing.

@Root didnt realize you had a write-up on this; love it. The "destroys your gut bacteria" is really the effect I'm feeling the most when I'm shitting my brains out after eating it haha!

@arcsector I didn’t have that on hand 😛

After learning about glyphosate/roundup, what it does, how it basically never breaks down, and how it’s found in everything from Oreos to rainwater, I’ve been doing my best to severely limit the amount I consume.

There are other pesticides, but they’re simply dwarfed by roundup.

There’s also bad things like phytates in soy (and unfermented beans, etc.) that steer me away from meat replacements, but that’s a rant for another day!

@Root you mean this? Seems the content was greatly exaggerated, and the one you buy off the shelf is Beyond which barely has the stuff. https://thereasonedvegan.com/2019/...

The numbers in that article seem legit, here's the original report https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/...

Taken from the original article at https://momsacrossamerica.com/gmo_i...

Not saying it's great but glyphosate is everywhere and calling out one particular product for it using questionable maths is shady at best. If you have better sources than these links I'm interested in reading through them.

@RememberMe Nah, that’s not the only reason to avoid it. Just one of many.

I’d figure a higher price for something that tastes, feels, and smells worse would be damning enough.

I did kind of get off on a tangent, though.

I would vomit simply knowing that its from a lab and not from a chicken or steer. I’m not eating plastic

If I had the patience to knead seitan regularly it could replace like ⅔ meat consumption.
- doesn't pretend to be meat but still quite close when prepared appropriately
- can be spiced any way I like
- is basically a lump of protein
- is way cheaper than meat in powder form

Only issue is it's a bitch to prepare and harder to knead than any dough I've ever seen.

60 to 80 percent of all soya goes into animal feed, doesn't this mean you're eating the same shit with meet anyway?

The environment costs of meat huge, just in terms of the quantity of animal feed grown.

@nibor the costs of industrial meat is high, but limiting the amount of meat produced would solve this issue, or maybe finding more sustainable ways to deal with the byproducts of livestock production.

@arcsector There are a lot of ways to solve the issues with meat production but all of them involve an increase in meat prices so no elected official is willing to act until the relevant social movements are strong enough to cost them more votes than that.

@nibor animal meat = soya - animal feces

@electrineer Wait, what?

@yehaaw animals are obviously separating what they eat into meat and droppings. It's a system with inputs and outputs.

@electrineer There's also a few transformations involved.