Now this is truly fucked up...

What wouldn't one due to solve problems... Nonetheless, how low can one go?

Win on a Mac?

@asgs yup.

Why not?

@iiii why would you, if not for necessity?

@100110111 because Mac sucks? 🤔🤔🤔

I don't see a problem....

@iiii let's not turn this into OS warzone. My point was that it feels ridiculous to install Win on an Apple machine, and never thought there'd be a reason to do so...

@100110111 it's an Intel machine which can run windows just fine 🤷‍♂️

Click on the empty space on the taskbar (where an open program would be displayed) and just drag it down. If that doesn't work, right click on the same empty space and look for something like "taskbar settings"

@100110111 Plenty of reasons. Many people like the hardware, but despise the OS. Some may have been given it as a work machine, but are more comfortable with windows. Some may prefer MacOS, but have to use Windows some of the time for compatibility reasons.

I don't see the big deal personally. It's a tool, use it as you will 🤷

@AlmondSauce I'm confused at the "many people like the hardware"...

Like software? sure...

But liking the _hardware_ is mostly just saying: "I don't care about retarded design flaws as long as it looks good"

@FinlayDaG33k

Well we're always making trade offs so ... yeah I think that last point is a thing.

@N00bPancakes I mean, you're always making tradeoffs yes, but with Apple, you trade too much for too little.

Normally you have to pick:

- Good after-sales support (eg. repair services)

- Reliable hardware

- Fast hardware

- Good software

- Price

With Apple, however, you draw the short straw on most of it...

Literally all Apple devices really have going for them is the good software support...

I mean...

You pay a lot more, for worse after-sales on horribly engineered, underspec'd hardware...

What do you get for all of that? A software experience that 99% of the time "just works" (implying the hardware itself didn't commit sudoku yet)...

That honestly shouldn't be a no-brainer for anybody that can't just use their cash bills to light their cigars.

@AlmondSauce Because Apple's outdated, overpriced and shoddy hardware has only one point going for it: it can run macOS despite macOS' copy protection.

@FinlayDaG33k

I think it depends on the product. I've personally never been able to justify the costs of a Mac laptop product.

Having said that, the other things....

I'll throw one out there that might make me switch to the iPhone eventually.

Security. Google / Android is one mess after another compared to Apple.

Also the iPad is a pretty great product. I like my windows laptop, and my Chromebook, but neither fill the space my iPad does, and the android tablet history has been pretty horrific.

But these are bigger topics than I think this rant covers ;)

@N00bPancakes It doesn't depend much on the product...

It's more the occasional exception that actually is an alright product...

like the iPad Pro... has a horrible design flaw where it can break quite easily due to a weakness n the frame, but is mainly "patched" by the fact that it's designed to run with the case anyways.

As for security: Apple can pretend to be more secure because nobody really knows whats going on...

With Android, I can look into the inner working and find out how it works and how I can exploit it.

Apple has a lot of "security" features that make it harder to do anything because you're working in a blackbox.

It's like the WW2 Enigma machine... we didn't know the inner workings, but once they managed to reverse-engineer it, it was pretty much game-over.

I'm starting to regret opening this can of worms once again 😅

@FinlayDaG33k "But liking the _hardware_ is mostly just saying: "I don't care about retarded design flaws as long as it looks good""

Precisely. You're really telling me you don't know people like that?!

@AlmondSauce Which is exactly the part that confuses me, the fact that people are willing to put up with what is basically DOA hardware just for the sake of having it look good o.0

@Jilano looks fine to me 😎

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