Hey devRant. What the fuck is up?

I'm new and just wanted to say hi or whatever. I don't even work in any computer science related job. I'm a fucking welder.

I have aspirations one day to be just like you nerds. I fall asleep at my desk almost every night taking random online programming classes which I lose interest halfway through to some OTHER class and redo the same shit.

Is this what it's like to be smart?

Welcome to devRant @AleCx04's brother, who knew @Jilano would be right!!!

https://devrant.com/rants/2354972/...

On a serious note, yes, we slave at learning, and learn to fail at it 😂

Welcome! A lot of us hear marvel at people with practical skills who can do stuff like welding. Certainly a bit of a mystery to me!

Welcome :)

As long as you dream about it and work on that dream, you're gonna suceed one day.

@C0D4 your statement both confused me and inspired me. Let let me also add that before I got this job welding I was in the Army (the lamest of the two).

I guess I don't want to affiliate myself with these 'robo welders'? Man you nerds are weird.🤣

Also thank you all for the welcomes (also on a serious note) all of this stuff seems like so much to take in. It's so hard to focus on one area when I want to do so much.

@molaram 8-10? What kind of dev are you?
I don't know any dev that's < 12 per day 👀

That's not necessarily work hours though.

@molaram my wrists, back, legs, and hands are so destroyed from my previous jobs sitting down pecking at a keyboard almost sounds like a dream job.

But I don't ever think I'll make it to that level, honestly. I could maybe see myself doing random freelance work or make an app or two.

I enjoy technology. I like to see how things work. This is more of a hobby. And if I get some cash money so be it!

Cyber security sure sounds lucrative tho... 😉
(Kidding)

@pythonInRelay I appreciate the kind words of encouragement! But it is just a skill. I'm not that good at it. I work in a fabrication shop. Pretty much customer has stupid ideas I reproduce those stupid ideas. From what I read on here it seems both careers are pretty similar.

@pythonInRelay so far the only language I have any competency in is python. I was told it was the "LANGUAGE OF THE FUTURE", and it is a very good first one I think.

These are several 'goals' I have made myself:

- learn Java/Kotlin and make a Android app
(Want a note taking app that's like Google keep, but... Better)

-learn html, JavaScript, CSS obviously (I really enjoy playing the CTF on hacker101 although I've only found one flag so far) Bug bounties are cool AF

-do SOMETHING with python. Honestly I think it would be badass to sqlinject a random website for email/passwords (I know I know it's illegal I'm not going to)

-i read a lot more on cyber security than I thought I would.

I enjoy building shit no matter how dumb the customer's idea is.

@molaram yeah I have an associate's degree in Architectural Drafting and Design ( AutoCAD). ,🤣

I'm pretty diverse.

@molaram like I said. Not really trying to make a career from this side project of mine. If something comes of it that'd be great, but learning it is what I'm after.

What better place to learn than from all the real pros. Not some LinkedIn bitch group.

@molaram @M1sf3t I have spent HOURS trying to solve a challenge on sololearn several times.. it's depressing.

Welcome! Ahh, the fellow wants to become a nerd like us? Great! Get those jar-bottom-thick glasses first and we'll begin!

Now here's a first lesson for you: every job and every profession sucks. They all suck, just in different ways. Pretty much all of them can have adverse effect on your health unless you constantly put extra effort in it. Programming is no exception.

Lesson 2: Times when learning a programming language was enough are in the past now. Learning languages is step 1. The next chapter is called "Frameworks". And this is the chapter where you choose what kind of dev you want to be: web, embedded, desktop, automaton, etc. as there are far too many frameworks to master them all.

Lesson 3: It's constant learning (as technologies change). Learning to admit our mistakes and
take measures to remediate them and prevent them in the future professionally is a large part of our job. Mistakes will happen - that was supposed to be a Lesson #0. My mistake.

The moment you build something (a tool or whatever) that solves a problem you have using computers... you will be hooked to programming.

Everyone is better at life experiences here so am not gonna go for that, am 21 and already very confused where to go

Regarding java/Android, i saw you wanna make a note taking app. I am somewhat ok in that and might be helpful, @ me if you get stuck ;)

(1 advice : choose either java or kotlin<whichever you find easy> for android dev but not both. Both languages are supported to a great extent but kotlin is usually preferred by those having a good grip in java/advance programming concepts)

I hope you guys have notifications on because I already forget your names when I clicked comment haha. Thank you all so very much for the advice and guidance. I hope you all don't mind if I keep you and your nerd brains in my ' toolbox'. The community here is way more welcoming than I thought it would be and that's pretty fucking awesome.

You have renewed my motivation!

Desk jobs can make you really fat if you're not careful...if you're used to moving around and you switch to sitting and not moving for 8+ hours it'll be a real shit show if you eat the same lol. I gained like 25lbs in a year...

but yeah people kinda shit on desk jobs but IMO they're fucking great (and people don't realize how good they have it). I worked at Walmarts and prisons and pizzarias and homes for behavioral teens...everything where you're running around and doing a bunch of shit. Now I'm sitting down in an air conditioned office or chillin at home doing a bunch of shit.

I'm just starting a career in tech or w/e but I like learning stuff. it's tough and I'm currently having a hard time not feeling like a total idiot during this bootcamp but I'll push through.

Good luck and have fun!

That feeling of uncertainty you have late at night when you're grinding on some code and it's going nowhere and it's like there's giant new framework to learn every month? It's never going to leave you, you might as well get used to it. It's part of the nature of this profession.

Even the highest level pros get that same feeling. They might be doing much different stuff at a higher level, but they feel the same as you do. The most successful ones embrace it and thrive on the challenge and uncertainty.

I can't offer advice without knowing who you are, except for one thing that helped me as a career switcher that got involved with software development 20 years ago.

You might think that the best thing to do is to dive into the most popular languages/technology. That's not necessarily true. If you pursue the most popular stuff, you'll end up with an ocean of competition for jobs. It's much better to find a niche where you have unique skills, preferably leveraging what you already know.

Bro that Intro is funny as fuck! welcome man! Its cool here. Youll get back pain and BS boss sometimes but all good still. haha.

@C0D4 lmao it keeps happening! I keep trying to get my brother into welding and these dudes keep jumping into the dev field! whyyyyyy :P

Just kidding, welcome to the community @TheAnonyMOST !

Oh, a welder! You'll fit right in. Some code can't be touched without a blowtorch.

@AleCx04 cause welding kinda sucks, man. I'm so sick of getting slag in my gloves, hair, face, ears, everywhere. The shit defies physics and goes around all protective equipment just to burn the fuck out of you.

@spurius I do appreciate your advice and in a way I agree, but it's always good to have that safety net when. No one needs your niche. Lol

@jbrandona119 I'm so looking forward to getting fat... 🤣

@cprn I do the opposite of every tutorial I've taken so far. I try to find out how much code I can create to do something that would only take one line. ,😎

Welcome to coding. It is a satisfying hobby.
But if you like to code and want to keep it that way, don't do it at work.

@TheAnonyMOST

Actually, a "niche" skillset in computing pays far better and has more security than general purpose web-developer. What employers really want is buyer's market where they get to choose from vast number of developers. They want you to compete with people in India who make a third of what you make as a welder now.

If you're willing and able to go beyond the web-framework-du-jour into something more specific you'll be better off. When your skillset is hard to find, you're the one who benefits the most.

@spurius this does make total sense and I completely agree. I guess my point I was trying to get across is more geared towards freelance work, e.g. you can find some work building a website for some local small business while searching for a career in the speciality of choice.

Personally money in a job is not everything. I would absolutely (and am currently) take a little less money for a better work environment. Though I know my worth and I won't be robbed. Lol

What, in your opinion, is a under staffed speciality in the dev/computer science field? To me it looks like everything has already been done. I'm sure that's just me not having creative ideas.

@M1sf3t I've made a couple bucks just using an app to build a website once. Had no idea how to code at all. Lol It wasn't much, but honestly I didn't really do anything.

I doubt I'll ever see the inside of an office as a developer, really so odd jobs are fine.

Who knows.. maybe I have the next candy crush inside my head...

Born and raised in MS. Ridgeland if you have ever heard of it. Right above Jackson. My shitty first marriage took me to PA and the army took me to Southern California 😄. Still a ways from the bay. High Desert. Although I really don't like California politics, I enjoy living so close to Vegas and LA. Haha

Thank you for your kind words and motivation, broth... Nerd. 😄I do look forward to learning from you guys.

Edit: @M1SF3T

@M1sf3t I'm pretty sure we just became best friends.

I am currently work on that Google automated python for it course. (Got that financial aid, son!) And whatever random classes I can geta hold of for free.

@M1sf3t automate all the things!

Woa woaa - I'm no nerd!

Welcome aboard :)

Been there, done that! Don't listen to all the but's - seriously fuck it. Every job has it's downsides. Also right now take a note of all the people that doubt you so that they get the front seat watching 💪🏼 it'll be priceless in the future.

@arfro I appreciate the good vibes, nerd 🤣

@TheAnonyMOST I just dove into the world of cybersecurity (from being a sysadmin who studied programing...) And its very interesting!

@linuxxx so do you think that someone with very little knowledge in expert (I believe more of an 'intermediate' kind of computer user) level computers in general could dive into something like bug bounties and be profitable?

CyberSec interests me so much (beyond teenage boy who just played watchdogs and download Kali Linux), but all the online courses I've found are pretty boring. Pluralsight so far has had the best one and that's probably just because I could learn from just listening to what the guy was saying while driving to work.