The fact that windows doesn't come bundled with a fucking SSH CLI client really pisses me off and I don't know why... Just let me be angry

But it does 🙄

Edit: here's how to enable it
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/...

@C0D4 wait what?!

Where and since when

@lxmcf I edited above 🤗

@C0D4 you ruined his anger cycle... Noice

@MrCSharp my bad 🤭

@lxmcf

several years ago lol

Install MSYS or Cygwin. You'll need in anyway.

@ddephor

cmd.exe
> bash
> yes

> yay Linux like 👀

🤷‍♂️
I haven't needed Cygwin since WSL was introduced.

@C0D4 My current dev machines are still Win7, so I have no chance to use WSL, and I'm not keen on changing to Win10.

And my private machines all run debian or debian derivates, so no need for WSL.

Ya, it does.
An ssh server too.

The only things keeping me sane when I have to use it.

But I need telnet!

@C0D4 My anger cycle!!!

@Linux Ah yes I see PowerShell... I think I can live without SSH

Getting pissed of is a natural part of life, I do it regularly.

or stop being a bitch and just use putty like everybody else, since that would also allow you to manage ssh connections easier 🙂✋

@JoshBent yeah I probably should just use putty, but got to complain about something lol

@JoshBent Putty is also shit, too much configuration. If you connect to the same hosts regularly, it's ok, then you can save the configuration. The main advantage is that you don't have to install it, but that doesn't matter on your dev machine.

Most annyoing is PSCP which defaults to SFTP, you always have to add -scp to the call.

@ddephor usually it's not the hammer, but the person hammering

if you have a billion of hosts, then you can use winscp to have folders and then click on "connect via putty" which will automatically create the necessary session

@JoshBent Yeah, WinSCP is another shitty tool that freezes frequently and mangles up file permissions (which is partially also Windows fault).

I don't get it, how people can stand the constant battle with those tools.

MSYS/Cygwin with OpenSSH works flawless at all times. You can easily automate frequent tasks and combine all other GNU tools and more to do whatever you want. But no, devs rather complain about features their tools lack, instead of using the right tools for the job.

@ddephor I personally don't consider a linux subsystem or any bash wrapper want-to-be the right tool, but to each their own poison.

I myselfy anyway use for most things a linux VM, since my entire system is VMs with passthrough, so I can just nomachine/x2go into it in full screen at any point in time, for the rest when I don't want to boot it up or quickly do something on windows, I have a batch of ssh keys which make managing things much easier too.

WinSCP and Putty always have worked for me, even with uncountable amounts of instances at the same time, though for bigger ops I switch over to filezilla, because even though it doesn't have putty integration, it does have up to 10 parallel uploads/downloads.

Edit: not to mention the pain of having to push things via terminal instead of drag and drop, switch quickly to other folder in the full tree etc.