So I decided to start using NoScript in Firefox recently, and it's been the most wonderful and annoying experience.

Wonderful - Easy to use whitelist on a domain basis makes it easy to un-break websites I trust while keeping potential malicious JS from other domains out.'

Annoying - Now I get why all the graybeards on Hacker News hate what the modern web has become

Most neckbeards(i won't call them nerds graybeards) think of the web and webpages as a whole as something that is to be used on a pure reading format. No dynamic content(maybe just dates) no interaction etc. Just blogs and shit to read.

@AleCx04 From what I can tell, for the ones that have problems with dynamic content, they don't mind anything that's defined in the HTML/CSS specs or stuff that's auditable via web tools.

And I can understand that. Having it done that way ensures you can have a reference of what the dynamic content is and does.

@irene why are they pure shit? What are you people running these applications on that would give y'all the amount of issues that would warrant the ridiculous statement of "pure shit and should be killed with fire"?
Are they too complex for you all to create?
Are they failing you all on something?
Most of you people are European, is bandwidth such shit over there that having single page applications would fry y'alls shit to the point of hating it? I really want to know technical and concrete reasons instead of the opinionated bandwaggon bs I get spat every single time man.
Because other than that, it just starts to come off as the "trendy l337" thing to say.

@obsecurity If you keep digging on it it gets really hard core man. There is a lot of good things that we can do with the web, specially since web2.0 came out and now with the newer iterations its gonna get better. At one point I would normally hope for a better way to do things, it is starting to come up through webassembly etc <--- but if them neckbeards think that webassembly somehow will kill JS or all the interactivity in the web they are high af

@irene that is really not a good reason at all. because it is not a reason really. There are a loooot of languages that are being used for this that they were not "intended" to be used for. Javascript was literally intended to be used in a browser, evolved particularly to better accommodate the browser. What part of the language makes it so hard to manipulate DOM structures? I know more langs that I can count and I am not about to try and fuck with the DOM with any other one(xcept maybe for Lua) if anything, judging for the original way in which HTTP was meant to be used, I would say that JS has made an amazing job in fixing the issues that we have. Web 2.0 Would have not been able to exist without JS and the general ideas behind WebAssembly would not work without it.

@irene you don't have to. It doesn't make it any less true.