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Kimmax111066yI too am christian and now I think the age you get your confirmation done is way to early. I did mine at 13 or 14 and nowadays I think I wasn't fully aware of what I'm actually dealing with and just stuck to what was thought etc. The one thing that did stick tho was something my pastor said, something along the lines of 'You can interpret the evangelicalism and it's sayings however you want, you might agree or disagree with what the Bible says, if you fell like you're christian, you can do define it as you will'. Obviously that comes with some sort of boundaries, but it fits generally I think. Since then I, for myself, defined "god" as the currently scientific unexplainable, more like a state of things than a 'being' that actively controls whats going on etc. Sure we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the big bang, but what was it before, where did that matter initially came from, etc, etc. We need a point where we hit ground zero, or something you just can't describe in our words right now, all that is 'god' for me.
I also read the whole bible, in my younger ages and I all just took it like a bunch of metaphors, not like things that actually happened. Messages of what you could expect from the religion bla bla, but as I said I completely redefined it for me. You could argue that I am not christian anymore, while I wouldn't directly agree, it wouldn't affect me really - I found what is an acceptable solution for the whole 'god' problem and that's all what matters to me -
@thevariableman no, I thought it sounded cool but I didn't mean as a statement of any kind...
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I dont believe in anything but myself. But have read the Bible, Koran and Tora.
I like religious discussions and having read it makes me have an advantage over most people.
I regularly have a discussion with a muslim who states something and then I correct them on the actual text and what in my opinion is meant with it. -
Been reading daily verses since i waaaas 12? If you have a protestant Bible guide, there is always an explanation and even those say that not all of the values hold up today. Dont forget that the Bible was written by people, not by God.
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Teknas27516yI'm very lucky to be born to athiest parents.
We just believe in humanity that's all. -
@retnikt IIRC that rule was meant to avoid fights.
Even though this post isn't neutral, I didn't write it as opinion on religion, but a recollection of my subjectice experiences with christianity.
There are believes/practicants and atheists/agnostics here, but no one is bashing no one.
This isn't even politics, so what part of POLITICS did you understand as RELIGION? -
@Teknas why lucky? Believe is not something one gets from their parents (if it is that would be indoctrination)
My aunt and uncle are Catholics, their daughter is muslim and her brother is agnost.
Either you believe or you dont. -
@Codex404 That's not how it usually works tho. Beliefs are easily passed down from your surroundings when you're too young to have a proper chance of questioning. Happens all the time, especially when people think they have found some kind of Divine Truth™, it's only natural to shove that down your child's throat in that classically well meaning Christian manner.
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@ihatecomputers now you just negated my last comment lol
@Codex404 i agree with him, it's the exception to the rule
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I once read the whole bible.
Not in one sitting, ofc. I read it in a period of a year, just 3-4 chapters a day.
Is it something to boast about?
I'm not sure.
I mean, I guess being able to read through it despite not being exactly entertainment material (except some fun parts) kinda is. So I might feel a tad bit proud about that.
But I'm actually more happy that I did instead.
The reason I'm more happy than proud is because I took awareness of the religion I was in.
I became christian when I was an early teen. I grew up in an agnostic family. My dad was kinda hippie and my mom was into leftist ideas.
So me becoming a christian was a bit orthogonal to their philosophies.
I started assisting a church because I was very alone and misunderstood, and found some people there that seemed to get me, and viceversa.
But as time went on and I got more exposed to christian doctrine, my level of commitment grew.
I wanted to save people from going to hell. It sounds funny, maybe egotistical, but it's true.
3, 4 years of being in the church go by. I collaborate in the church, I make some very personal friendships, I was very deep in church by that point.
I then decide that I should take it to the next level and read the bible. So I did. And unknowingly, it started this feeling in me that I didn't liked being a christian at all.
I'm not gonna deny there are some christian values that are still compatible with today's modern society, such as being a good samaritan, working hard, being honest.
But there were too many verses in both old and new testament that I found morally repugnant,
The ones that made me feel the worst about christianity, though, were the ones that condemned homosexuality with death.
Since my dad was a hippie, he used to be in artsy things, like theater or music, and through that he had some gay friends
And for real, I think they were the nicest and most cheerful people I'd met as a kid. So I could not be part of that anymore.
Let me clarify that I didn't stop being a christian immediately after finishing the bible, but it did start a spark "of "what tf do I even believe in...?"
That spark turned into flame when I started the university, a place where people think for a living.
It's no wonder my mind started completing the puzzle, and slowly I started liking church and christianity less and less.
Until one sunday I didn't want to go, and I didn't, and from then on, I pretty much severed ties with that church and christianity.
Which is crazy considering I went every sunday without interruption for 6 years, and several saturdays too.
Anyhow, that's my story of me getting in n out of christianity. Like in the previous post, it sure how to end this, so go fuck a rock or something.
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