You can always fucking tell when it is the season of economics student "entrepreneurs", by just scrolling through the job feed - "payment not verified", "$10k", "NEXT BIG IDEA", "I need", ..

@Nanos the point is that those kiddos have no actual base, nor money to back anything, but felt immediately inspired to splash vomit their "ideas" for freelancers to do for free.

@davenall Youre comparing apples (heh) to oranges - apple has had and continues to have a successful run, both financially and as a tech empire, some hipster moustache with no money - doesn't and I wouldn't be able to pay my rent with printed out chat logs of "you'll get shares" or "this is the next Microsoft Windows of our time".

@Nanos I'm a freelancer, I have bills to pay, I am not trying to somehow get into the top clique, just have food to eat and car to drive :-)

Though what you've described I guess is normal in almost all forms of "online fame", which being the top 1 player is part of, have seen that in many other games, not just MMORPG, it's basically people wanting to boast having a friend that is the highest rank etc.

@Nanos you're assuming a very different mindset with your wish, it goes with age, background and just how somebody developed if he will help or rather be jealous and toxic

todays kids are what I call the "instagram/twitter generation", can't form whole sentences, all the time jealous of imaginary always happy personas and more

it was a much healthier development phase for us, "missing out" on all that, also I feel the very old MMORPGs were also much healthier when it came to helping others, which is why I enjoyed the beta of fallout76 so much, truly threw me back to the "good old times" :)

@Nanos mainly preventing people from griefing, reward helping others and punish certain behaviour, though I could see dipshits running around quickly helping in a mission and then returning to their own business, forced models rarely help making ugly personas less ugly, it's the online world after all, it is just sometimes a setting, a theme, nostalgia what makes people be nicer to others, which I think in the beta is the case, though once it opens to the mass, it'll be just another asshole farm probably..

@davenall I probably will never work together with somebody, especially not split an LLC with somebody, I can register a LLC alone too, but tbh I just simply don't care about the tax benefits I'd get, my tax adviser suggested similar things before, but it's not worth my time and $700+.

I don't agree on "listening to every opportunity" either, somebody that doesn't have his payment verified and is clearly a fool/tool from first economics semesters, is not worth my time nor effort, if he'd have a clear vision and verified payment, I'd much rather listen and see if I want to engage with the idea.

@davenall most out themselves already in the description and not verifying their proposed budget, but yeah that's another trick I use during the interview if the description and budget passed.