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I'll just leave this here.
https://slate.com/technology/2018/...
Spoiler: Actually every eu country has different copyright exceptions.
There are controversial parts, but it's more about the liability of hosts and implementation. In worst case the EU court has to step in and say a certain implementation is wrong and against fundamental rights and then the implementation is changed -
740027806y@theKarlisK: I'd wager the people implementing these for EU government sites or paying for that implementation are a few levels of bureaucracy removed from those deciding about the directives.
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@Nanos Good question. I guess as long as the UK is part of Europe, it will affect the UK. I only know that Susan Wojcicki, YouTube CEO, wrote a letter a few days ago where she told that YouTube would change very much(as I said, they for Examlle will delete most of the channels to prevent copyright violation) and in that letter she also included the UK
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@elcore I am not late. I knew it before and I already ranted about article 13 a few weeks ago. But I do care about the final vote as you mentioned.
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Danacus2396y@ScaryException So we've got a couple of months left. Or maybe even years, it's still the European Union after all.
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Danacus2396y@elcore Looks like my country (Belgium) is sceptical about it. That's good news for me at least I guess.
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Danacus2396y@elcore As if a normal citizen has anything to say in the EU... They won't listen anyway.
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@elcore I think the same way as @Danacus .
I know people who wrote emails and called the MEP's. The problem is that many MEP's are still about to vote for article 13, even if the people tell them not to(with arguments I read myself!)
It literally seems like the MEPs (who vote for article 13) don't even consider the consequences for the internet.
And some support these consequences - I mean, article 13 somehow makes censorship legal. -
Danacus2396y@ScaryException Yeah, I agree with you. It almost feels like Europe is becoming the next China if they keep going like this.
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@ScaryException censorship by state is still ilegal. Any non-state platform was already allowed to "censorship" before Article 13.
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mngr9406yI think that these laws are already old.
they target the server, it basically will be responsible for what the users do.
but what if there is no server? what if the comunication is decentraliced?
it has a lot of advantages and realization-challenges, it is hard, but not impossible.
they should ban source code and compilers, and we all know that when this point comes than the shit has gotten real -
mngr9406yexactly, but legally imposing to NOT have data on client side is more privacy-killer, and it requires very scary law.
I am not saying that this day will not come, I am hoping that it will not last much š -
mngr9406y@ScaryException you say youtube will delete small channels, can you give a link for that?
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@mngr
"The proposal could force platforms, like YouTube, to allow only content from a small number of large companies. It would be too risky for platforms to host content from smaller original content creators"
https://youtube-creators.googleblog.com/... -
mngr9406y@ScaryException wow! Youtube against art13!
Usa vs europe chapter 6!
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@Nanos The article is true, they actually forced some streamers to buy licenses. Another big streamer("Gronkh") bought one for him and his team.
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Danacus2396yI just don't get how it's possible that pretty much all the European citizen are unable to stop them, because we have literally nothing to say. How can it even be legal for them to make such decisions about our lives when no one wants it? This makes me feel so frustrated. And yes, we could all go on the streets and protest, but no one seems to care enough.
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@Danacus Maybe we should keep calm and just wait for what the results of the voting are.
But yes I know what you mean. It's frustrating. -
Danacus2396y@ScaryException You're right, there's no need to panic this early. We don't know their exact plans of how they will do it either.
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A bit of unwarranted panic over here.
While I despise any sort of copyright or IP related legislation. This really won't make as big of a change against memes or casual photo uploads.
The legislation shifts the onus of protection to the website owner, but in terms of what will be classified as "copyright" it makes no suggestions or proposes any changes. So memes are still protected under parody laws, your personal photos are you personal photos. -
iamroot44436ySpeaking of these outrageous laws do you think a big company like Google or Amazon would ever "shut off the internet" in a country in protest. I'm not saying for article 13 but for something more extreme.
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mygodman16yMy god man, I agree with your rant on article 13, but learn to phrase it properly and not come off like the type of person they could care less about being destroyed! If it were up to you then we would all be fucked. Oh wait... One of the top results on google? Uh oh. Already about to pass? Oh shit... Too late now I guess. Thanks for that. No hard feelings, you had the right idea...
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Welcome to the internet of 2019 after Article 13!
FUCK ARTICLE 13
MOST OF THE MEMBERS OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT WHO VOTED FOR ARTICLE 13 ARE OLD PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL USING KEY MOBILE PHONES AND HEARD OF THIS THING CALLED "INTERNET" ONCE IN THEIR LIFE.
THIS "INTERNET" ("Neuland") CAN'T BE THAT IMPORTANT, JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T USE IT IN YOUR FREE TIME?
I literally can imagine what the European parliament members think:
"The people will like it i guess!"
"What, you can chat with other people in the internet? NEVER HEARD OF THAT."
"I don't understand this 'Memes'. It is not funny and i don't like it!"
"My sons always much too long on his computer, this 'Internet' can't be good!"
I am sorry for the rage, but i just can't believe that people, who maybe mostly have never dealt with the internet, are destroying the future of self-fulfillment and free resources for everyone.
YouTube will start deleting channels who are not big enough, who are not sponsored or made by a big company. They will just delete them. And videos from out of the European union won't be able to be watched in Europe. Big companies will gain power over the internet(I know the partly already have much). Educational sites like Wikipedia and YouTube for example will die, but hey, FUCK MY LIFE!!!
FUCK MY FUTURE!!!
FUCK FIRST WORLD DEVELOPMENT!!!
WHY NOT JUST GO BACK TO THE STONE AGE???
FUCK OUR CITIZENS JIIIIHAAA!!!
"Nah i never needed YouTube. Or Facebook" + (we can talk about this one) + " Or Instagram. I never saw someone of my friends using it."
FUCK !!!
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