So I missed the first 3 days of my programming class. Once I showed up to the 4th the professor was really cool about it. She informs me on the HW I missed and so after the test she handed me (which was overdue as well) I started on the HW. By the end of the class I show her the exercises I did and just by how I structured each function (Python btw) she could tell that I was advanced for the class... I was surprised when she said that I didn't have to show up to the class because it would be a waste of my time, and that I can use the time to focus on personal projects. She offered to help me out with database dev (which ironically I planned on reading head first sql after a design pattern book). The thing that hit home was when she said "I think you're going to be a great programmer."

You have a dedicated teacher! Congrats!

#!/usr/bin/python

country = 0
school = 0

#TODO: define country and school

@dalastTomCruise I think she has the hots for you lad!

I'm sure you will be a good one, just don't lose the passion for it along the way. 😁

@godot
Country = 'North American'
College = 'Houston Community College'

@codeRetard who knows, but at this point all I see her as is a mentor. Lol

@dalastTomCruise Just make sure not to get her pregnant ha ha

I'm suuuuuuper jealous to have a professor like that. My current one is trash...

@HelmetBro I was honestly shocked... Most professors are cold and distant, but this one is awesome. Sorry to hear about your professor btw.

@dalastTomCruise Precisely the reason why I am saying that she is into you. I am willing to bet she want more than to be your mentor!

A little advice:

Skipping "the basics" can be tempting, but is might be the worst thing you can ever do.

Being a "good programmer" is great, but really won't take you anywhere. Being a great engineer will on the other hand... so focus on that part. There are people writing great code for $5 a day. Don't try to compete with them.

@Lasse I get what you're saying, but I'm really not skipping the basics at all. When I say that I was advanced for the class, I meant I was already utilizing classes and data structures that weren't even going to be touched on in the class. Also, whoever codes for 5 bucks an hour I feel for, I mean I love programming and plan on doing it the rest of my life, but even with that passion I wouldn't code for 5 an hour no way.

Sigh. And as soon as the computer geeks hear it's a woman, they're all "she's into you", and "don't get her pregnant". :/
Seriously guys, control your hormones. See a great teacher, do not diminish her to a sexual target.

@Gauthier ahh come on man I'm pretty sure they're just messing around (at least I hope so).

@dalastTomCruise Sure. The now famous "locker room talk". Even if not serious, I'm sure most female devs would disapprove. We need to include them, not reduce them to sex objects. Even as a joke. I mean, OP had very nice things to say about the teacher *as a teacher*, and it takes a couple of comments to turn into this sexist BS.

@Gauthier well first of all there was only one person saying anything inappropriate, and that was that she might be into me... and then he follows with not to get her prego... he is obviously kidding... secondly everyone else here either said that they are jealous or that she is a great teacher... I feel like you're just searching for something... don't get me wrong I see why you're upset, but come on, it was one person and he obviously was poking fun. Not really being graphic or anything. I'm pretty sure he really respects woman at the end of the day if that's your concern?

@Gauthier and wtf liked lasse comment? It's seems like irrelevant advice that boast about software engineering over "coding"... which in reality most code takes a broad view to construct and organize... aka SE. (Sorry I want something else to talk about)

@dalastTomCruise I came across much more aggressively than I should have. Sorry about that. I don't know if this is the right forum to debate that, but I want to rephrase it in a more organized way. No aggression, promise ;)
1. The gender balance in the software industry, and engineering, is so far off that it can't be explained by biology alone. In my first year of university, there were 3 female students, in a class of 120+.
2. If I can do something to help change that, I'm happy to do it. Yelling at devs on devrant does not help. Again, sorry.
3. Open conversations with the tone of male locker room does not help either. It sets the scene: this is a place for men, and manly humor. If you don't fit then you're not in the norm, maybe not in the right place. Redefining the norm to include women is what I want. Let's draw a parallel: if you had a handful colored students in your class, you wouldn't (hopefully) refer to their skin color as soon as something involving them came up.

4. Let alone referring to their gender, it's referring to having sex with them. Imagine studying at a place or time with a dominance of male homosexuality, assuming you're male and heterosexual. How would you feel hearing people openly saying that you were very nice to Carl, maybe they should let you two alone in a room? Add to that the fact that no one seemed to care, and that most of them were significantly larger and stronger than you. I wouldn't feel comfortable and welcome.

Again, sorry if this sounds aggressive, I swear I'm just trying to explain my view objectively. I don't hope to convince you (jeez, this is Internet), but I do hope that you understand my point.

About @lasse 's comment, I see what you mean. But it's hard for us to know what you know, and the content of the class. If that was the teacher's call she's probably right though!

@Gauthier I'm actually homosexual and I do see your point. But I encourage free speech and if the commenters comment is so horrid it'll most likely get down-voted. I would (if the shoe was on the other foot) encourage a sassy or jokingly sexual or demeaning remark towards males from a female dev given that it's funny... even if it wasn't it'll mostly get down voted and ignored.

@Gauthier good point, there wasn't much to go off of from my post. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. (:

@dalastTomCruise With the rather significant difference that she would be in the minority, not doing so as part of a system, and seldom in a position of superior physical strength. I'd love women catcalling me in the street, but it's because I don't feel threatened by them, and because it does not happen (too often ;) ).
I agree that I reacted out of proportion given this particular situation.

@dalastTomCruise What I meant was, that there are millions of Indian and Chinese coders who can code better than you at a fraction of the price. Coding is outsourced to those countries for that reason! Learn the basics and get into engineering instead!

@Gauthier agreed, but one major key is that we are not on the streets but rather on devRant where freedom of expression is encouraged and where the other devs decide your merit.

@Lasse I feel like SE is intricately tied to coding... learning what tools (resources) you need and what their strong suits are is half the battle. And some of that insight comes from actually coding and understanding the API. I also feel like saying that somebody codes better in less the time isn't a valid excuse for not programming... I feel the most integrity from an SE comes from someone who can offer insight not only on the big picture (design) but can differentiate between which tools are best from the job and really appreciate the finer implementations that come with it. From what I've seen, a lot of entry devs work through the industry coding and gaining said insight to later appreciate the big picture in a more complete way because they have a better understanding of the tools and how they work when they finally become SE's.

@Gauthier

Okay from the top:

I love it how I was addressed in plural form even though I was the guy who made both comments! For the record, I am a singular not a plural (More on that later)

I know the idea might be strange to you, but women, much like men, can develop feelings for people they are in contact with, has happened before and will happen again. Not all gender interactions are based only on emotions and they are indeed mostly very physical, friends with benefits & casual sex to name a few.

Another idea which might be strange to you is the fact that women are capable of getting pregnant and men tend to be the leading cause of this phenomenon especially when they are not careful!

Stating either one of these very normal human interactions in passing to a fellow developer on an online forum is in no way shape or form "diminishing her to a sexual target"!

Locker room talk!!? Something tells me that you have been watching the presidential debate! Vote for Hillary much!?

@Gauthier

If anything, I am all for including women into tech, but only if they WANT to be there and not by dragging them in there kicking and screaming because we want to be politically and socially correct!

“Sexist BS” Spoken like a true politically correct social justice warrior there! I bet you are proud of yourself!

Last time I checked there were no gender checks at any coding school or development courses at any universities and no amount of politically correct wishful thinking is going to change the fact that not many girls tend to take programming classes and liking IT in general.

There is that locker room reference again! You seriously should cut down on watching the political debates mate! And no, it does not mean that this is a place for men and if you don’t fit you are not in the norm, it simply means the meaning of the words! Don't wreck you brains trying to read too much into it!

@Gauthier

On that note, gender, ethnicity and skin color are all physical attributes as much as your beard can be. It’s shaming them for what they cannot change which is the problem not stating the obvious.

Your many references to physical superiority is just amusing to read by the way! FYI women in tech like to be desired and looked at as women first and a developer second despite the fairly tail world people such as yourself try to paint!

Case in point: https://www.devrant.io/rants/246619

And lastly, apology accepted!

@codeRetard Much of what you say is all true (not US citizen, so not voting), what irritated me is suddenly focusing on her being a potential sex partner when the focus was her competence.

@codeRetard And of COURSE, this was a reference to the political debate. Wasn't it obvious? Do you not agree that Trump's general behavior towards women is to be condemned (please let's leave out the question about how appropriate he is for president, that's not the question)?
A good rule of thumb is: would you have told the joke to the teacher's face? If not, it's probably offensive. Making offensive jokes about women (when their gender is a key component) is not welcoming to other women.