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@gitpush let's see.
- Code you will never understand, the people who developed it don't even know their own code anymore.
- Database structure. I won't go further into that one, it just doesn't make sense.
- Obsolete fields EVERYWERE that no one dares to delete.
- Change one tiny thing, everything catches fire. Well, if they even let you change something, most of the times they don't.
- A million ways to insert one thing, that then gets stored in a million tables. I've talked about database structure.
- Repeating data, like product names. Maybe it's just me, but I always heard you shouldn't do that. I was really confused when I found out SAP does this.
- Just a general nightmare to understand.
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@cantthinkofone it's not that bad. But it's a challenging learning curve, of you want to master it. Drop me a line, if you need help... The worst thing is that sap is backwards compatible to the 90 in about 80%of the code. :(
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@burningcandle I do have to admit, I've only been working with it for 6 months, but lately I've seen no progress. I'm not learning anymore. It's so... unnecessarily complicated.
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Previous company had a hand-rolled CRM and primitive fleet management system.
It was clunky, it was prone to breaking, but it worked (more or less).
Instead of allowing their in-house talent to rebuild at a fraction of the cost, they decide to pursue a SAP / Dynamics implementation purely because the jumpy little sociopathic cunt that was PM was won over at a fucking free conference.
I think they were quoted 60k a year for SAP.
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SAP has been at the core of every company I have ever worked at (though I never needed to touch it, luckily). It's running almost every large Business in Germany, from the metal industry to newspapers. It's a Monolith, incredibly expensive and no one ever dares to touch it. It's software from the 90ies, the UI looks really bad, and I don't want to imagine what the codebase looks like. SAP is the future COBOL.
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@cantthinkofone After my previous company was acquired by SAP (look up "Gigya" if you're curious) I gave the whole thing a few months to process. After realizing they are basically a retarded unwanted sibling version of Oracle (which is already bad enough) I left.
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@burningcandle I can't even find it. I just use the SAP help (F1), but it never helps
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@cantthinkofone the TA is ABAPDOCU if I recall correctly. No internet needed... :)
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@burningcandle yes that's what I use, we just call it "help" here 😂
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@burningcandle most times is not clear. They tell you stuff exist, but not how to use it (sometimes)
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TLDR: SAP sucks. Don't ever work with it. Run away from it. Delete it from your memory. If your company works with it, quit. It's the best you can do.
A couple of weeks ago the group rant was "Story of your best/worst career choice" and I talked about the contract I signed. Even tho that is still true and I still feel like that, I think I got a new worst choice:
WORKING WITH SAP.
When I got this job I knew it would be SAP, but I didn't know what SAP was. I just thought "it's programming, how bad can it be?" OH BOII.
If only I would have done some FUCKING RESEARCH I would know this would be a mistake!!
And I knew I didn't want to work with this, I knew I wanted to be a web developer, but I STILL ACCEPTED THE JOB OH MAN WHAT WAS I THINKING I'M SO MAD.
Were I live we all have the same mentality when looking for the first job, which is to just accept anything you can get, because it's your first job, you need to work and to get experience, even if it's a bad job or if you know you won't like it. When my intership was ending, I told my parents I didn't want to stay there because they treat their employes like shit, and the salary is terrible. They told me to still accept it if they offered because I still need a job (this one was web tho) and experience.
So, of course, since I was looking for my first job, was told this my entire live, always thought like that and they were the first to contact me, I accepted it.
BIGGEST FUCKING MISTAKE!! DON'T THINK LIKE THIS!! AND STOP TELLING KIDS THIS!! IT'S NOT A GOOD MENTALITY!!!
ALSO DON'T WORK WITH SAP! EVER!
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