I know the world doesn't owe me anything but why is it so fucking hard to get a job in this industry?? Unless you have a few years experience in a job behind you. Well if I can't get a fucking coding job in the first place how the fuck am I supposed to get work experience. The world is deluded fucked up place. Rant over!

Keep trying and make friends with programmers. They are must likely to open the first door.

Dont loose hope. i have a fellow dev whose major in chemical engineering and a PM that is major in psychology.. if these people can get Dev jobs, then its not possible that you cant. Maybe u should start on a personal project first. Develop something markettable. Youll regret not doing this while your free, once u become a dev-for-hire, youll drown on tasks you dont like

@jinryu thank you :)

I have already started work on some mobile apps for local businesses I have shown these off at interviews. Hopefully over time IL be able to do this for a living. I'm sick to death of working in IT support

Yeah. The first one is always the hardest. There are just so many factors to it and you already come in at a disadvantage because of a lack of professional experience.

I don’t have the answer but I have so comments...

- I hire people that can learn, learn fast and learn smart.

Takeaway: when was the last time you learned a new technology? Why did you choose that technology? Why not another? How would you approach learning a new topic from scratch?

- I hire people I want to work with.

Takeaway: interviews are hard. You want to walk away with the interviewers thinking you are a person they would like to get to know.

- I hire people who are self driven.

Takeaway: have you launched a side project from idea to production? No. Do that.

- I hire people who can handle the business side (or at least don’t fight it)

Takeaway: if the only goal of a dev in to “build cool tech” then they don’t cut it. We are here to provide value and generate revenue.

Great! Ill keep these in mind @leanrob

And by your mid-40s, you have that experience, but you are too old to be hired.

If you don’t mind about the wage you could a couple really quick in my area (you need to be young if you don’t have any experience in this industry, otherwise it is hard to get any)

@Fast-Nop exactly. I'm 32 now lol